Navarre

Right now I am listening to the earth moves under my feet the sky comes tumbling down tumbling down when ever yourrrrrr arrooouuuuuuuuuunnnnnnnddddd oh baby i feel teh earth mooovee under my feeeeettttttt :roll:

Turn the heat up do a water change with like temp water dont feed tank see how it goes HTH but some times there is no turning back

Or just put an old marmite jar in tank and put a sinking pellet in there and clean out every morning Wont take long or some dwarf puffers or some copper or squesh them against glass everyday or catch them for people to feed them to other things DOnt Mystery snails eat other snails? who knows

Pick me when you wish to get rid of some fry

Depends on what you buy...lol and what you consider paid...lmao

If there are no fish in the tank add one shot of vodka to the tank every second day for 10 days then do a water change vacuming the snails out this should ...increase orgainic sugars...decrease available oxygen....fertilise your plants and ...kill the snails...maybe If you have a single fish then dont do it Whats wrong with snails anyway...they are self limiting...they get rid of the shite....and they turn your substarte stioping it from becoming anearobic. Of course once cycled you coudl just add mollies and or platties or guppies and not feed them....you certainly wont have snails for long

When you get time come have a look in my room You will see a range of stuff that might get you off the fence Navarre

Where? Oh I get it....lol Yes there are Still think best buy was what I said last time 10 mins of my time It cost me to join here Gawd if only I knew I couldnt get rid of you all when I joined...things would be different now :lol:

3 wise monkeys...lol LMAO roflmao well done ask no questions my son and you will be told no lies... should be more like it Thank you for sharing I do not regret that you have done so It may be the only chance you get to see an iggie or a jacksons again Thanks lol 3 wise monkeys...here? pffft

My royal would be 15 years old easy well I have had him for 10 and John had him for a while before that and he would be around 30 cm. But he is feed heaps and in a 6 ft tank Great fish and despite spike on plates a gentle giant. You can pick one up locally for around 125-150 and will last a life time...cheap fish if you ask me However after seeing some choc zebs on weekend they are nice fish as well and then whilst you have asked about "plecs" there are other cats that can do as well. Some of the rare synos like the angelicus or the old farowella sub group all add substance to a tank maybe you could look at the hara hara or the bango cats as well HTH

also the % is over all matings not just one so in any one mating you may see 100% of something depending on gene "expression"

I am sorry if you thought I was having a dig ID. I meant that there was a lot of discussion an age ago and will always be a roundabout as far as these animals are concerned. I was not suggesting that despite being a comercial memebr here you were trying to make a large sum of $$ off these animals. I was trying to congratulate you on what so far appears a job well done.

pm me what fish and when RJ and I will see what I can do

Hi mate I still have that sump if you want to look at it Nav

had the burtonis years ago and they didnt look like that would kill to have them again

Ahh the marketing hype begins well done on Breeding I understand not an easy thing congats and thanks for sharing Nav

a nice fish Thasnk for sharing sethG

Maybe this should not ready Watch out Aucks we are coming back but rather Palmy thank Alah that we are moving on

Well seth I have pleanty of those that you are welcome to I guess a good comparsion will be Firenzenz fish as they came from me anyway. And with the NLS on board it will be interesting to see what they colour like I am not 100% that he is but i am not 100% that he isnt either. Hard to tell with some of these fish What a pity is is that you dont have a name and colony of them or xmas fulus...lol Sorry I digress Maybe the LFS can tell you where he came from? Tho I can hazard a guess

Looked at my Browns with intent last night and barring is mood related however not sure that they look the same as this fish. Nice Fish all the same

sp44? lol My older Browns look a little like that when in good mood and feed well hard to tell as several names are used for tehse interchangably altho each describes a different sub species of Hap. For example the kyogo flameback describes a fish that has two scientific names one old nomicalture and the other new ...neither of which are allowable in NZ

LOL I am sure they woudl see them right nextto teh Hyacynith macaws and the jacksons casue they are right down the path from my pigmy Blueys and lace monitors not far from the Blue iggies Like I said seen the lists Was looking forward to a frilled as well good thing about govet departments is that with the stroke of a red pen they change minds like whores drawers. just look at how Pharmac works

+1 and congrats on breeding fish that so many of us struggle with Nav

Moot point for the last 6 years we have heard talk of and I have seen the list of "animals" that will have import standards. Monitors frilled lizards chameleons and the like. Now we hear that everything we keep will be outlawed and rendered inservicable if it is ecotic and if it is native you MUST be involved in a Uni/Zoo breeding program. laughable...no wonder smuggling is alive and well. 20 years ago populations here were decimated because of teh euro market for our commons. What makes anyone think they are still not being decimated is beyond me. Just cause you cant swap natives for a pound or a chimp doesnt mean it still doesnt happen Laughable