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yeah give us some updated pics , did anyone here buy the dottyback at organism, i didn't see it there on saturday

i think john had silver ones for $1500 today

i've never had a problem with discus and bristlenoses

so its wilsons lesion lesson

no i hadn't heard of metro being used before either and i'd really prefer not to dose anything i'm not sure of so i've just been using the garlic. I wasn't aware that it needed to be fresh garlic, i've just been using the seachem garlic guard. Is it true that i should avoid the chinese garlic as its not as potent?

i'll try and post a pic tomorrow, my halides have just switched off and i hes so damn difficult to get a pic of, tried giving him some food to lure him out to the front of the tank but that just made him zoom around even more :evil: i read this on reefkeeping.com; Tetra previously made a medicated food, Anti-Protozoan Medicated Flakes, which was reported to be effective against Cryptocaryon. The active ingredient was Metronidazole, also known as Flagyl. This was a good option when it was impossible to remove the fish to a separate quarantine/hospital tank because this food was safe for use in the display tank. The only downside was whether the fish could be coaxed to eat it at all and whether they could eat enough of it. Although the Tetra Medicated Food is now discontinued, Metronidazole is available, so it is possible to obtain it and mix it into the fish's favorite food and, with luck, to elicit a feeding response. The medicated foods are a good option for use as a preventative, for mild infestations, or when used in conjunction with one of the other less effective treatments, such as biological controls, UV, ozone, and garlic. All of these methods could be employed together in a display tank when removal is not chosen, although this is not the most effective solution, in my experience. I have always had better luck going through the trouble of removing all the fish for separate treatment or better yet, quarantining all new livestock and avoiding infection in the first place. So has anyone ever tried metro as a cure before, i do have some that i could slip in to his food but not sure on it...

Well the white spots are worse today but its hard to know if i should be worried or not as i understand it they are the burst cysts so i should expect to see more as it progressed anyway. Apart from the white spots are there any other symptoms that i should look out for to say that the ich infestation is getting worse, ie not eating, hiding etc?

tang would be fine in a 4ft, i currently have a yellow tang, blue tang, mandarin, sixline, pair of clowns shrimp in a 5ft

please enlighten me as to what 'sausage on a stick' is.... the mind boggles!

awwww, everybody gets there during the week dammit and i get stuck at work :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: sigh guess i'll have to have a look at the leftovers on the weekend, i was just getting excited with the new stock list email john sent out on the late night idea, can john be bribed and if so with what??

yeah mine is growing pretty crazily too, needs another fragging i think I have noticed some tiny wee snails in my tank with the same shells as my big ones, I'm hoping that they'll make it to a larger size before the wrasse eats them for lunch

ooh do tell

there was a rumour they were going to be doing a larger version of the rsm 4 foot or so, but not sure when/if thatts coming

Just an update, he's still eating and acting as normal, i'm feeding him nori and NLS marine food soacked in the seachem garlic guard. Spots don't appear any worse and still no sign on any other fish in the tank, i'm going to try and wait it out and see how that goes. Will keep you all posted...

4ft tank would be fine space-wise. Not sure what plants you are referring to, no plants in a marine tank . If you mean the copepods they are small invertebrates that live on your live rock http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copepod you need an established tank (probably at least a year old ) as the mandarin will quickly demolish your copepod population in a new tank and end up starving (most mandarins won't eat preprared food). Alternatively you could have a refugium which could provide an area for your pods to reproduce without being too decimated. Definitely do more reading on the subject first, i wouldn't recommend a mandarin for a new tank

you will need an established tank with lots of copepods to keep one alive (more for two). Mine is in a 400L tank with a lot of live rock and he still needs to put on more weight.

and if its white ich, leave him there and just keep feeding him a lot or try and take him out?

ok, well i've come home tonight and there are white dots so now its looking to be more likely to be white ich :evil: Heres the best picture i could get which shows white and black dots so i'm not sure if i should just leave him in there and see if he recovers or risk stressing him and take him out. Is there any advantage to taking him out as the ich is probably in the tank now anyway? Hes still very happy, eating well and i haven't seen any scratching yet but there are definitely ore spots tonight.

thanks guys for all the helpful info, i've never seen 'white' ich in the flesh so its possible the little fella had ich in the previous owners tank and this is the result of the wounds. That would make sense as when i bought him he had no spots at all, and has slowly developed these small black wounds about pinhead size. All other tank inhabitants in my tank have no symptoms of either form of ich and so perhaps this is the aftermath of white ich. I will try and get some photos up tonight, (but hes pretty quick and im pretty slow with the camera) they do resemble small wounds and there are only half a dozen or so whereas the pics of black ich i have seen the fish has been fairly well covered.

Hey guys, Just wondering if anyone has dealt with black ich in their tang before. My new small blue tang seems to have around half a dozen small black dots resembling the pics i have seen for black ich. I understand black ich is a parasitic turbellarian that lives in the sand and attaches to the host, and from what i've read the best course of treatment seems to be freshwater dips. The blue tang has only been in the tank a couple of weeks but doesn't appear at all affected by it, he's happy, eating like a pig and swimming as normal, my yellow tang exhibits no symptoms. My thoughts were to maybe try feeding garlic soaked nori to up the tangs resistance, i wondered if anyone had had any luck with this before. Should i just leave him be and see how he does or should i be freshwater dipping him now (which im nervous about as i've never done it before and don't want to stress him out)

definitely finrot, but finrot can occur as a secondary infection. Whitespot would appear as very small dots like grains of salt not large white patches. Treat with the furan and hopefully it should come right

i did the old lights out trick for a few days but found it to return, i'm now trying 1ml/100L of vodka for the week to see if that has any impact. I'm pretty sure the hot temps have contributed to this outbreak, plus i'm now feeding frozens for the sun coral....

i had something similar when my cleaner shrimp released their young

goldfish are pretty hardy, if you keep changing the water until you get the furan 2 i think they should be ok. my discus that had it lost around 1cm of fin off the pectoral fins and survived ok and they can be quite sensitive fish

Hi Vavoli Finrot can get really bad in only a matter of days, the white bones are the rays of the fins, i had a discus with quite bad finrot exposing the rays of the fins, however the tissue fully recovered with treatment. I suggest you treat with furan-2 which is anti anti-bacterial, follow the instructions, including the water changes between treatments. How many goldfish are in the 65L tank? the finrot may be occuring due to bacterial buildup due to overcrowding. Was someone feeding the fish while you were away? Excess food could have also caused the problem. I would not use the melafix (just my opinion) and instead use the furan-2. However if you do, you will need to do a large water change and discontinue the whitespot treatment so that you are not mixing meds. hope they get better!