Adrienne

sounds all good then. By tomorrow the stronger of them will be starting to swim horizontally. Its then up to you when you take the male out. A suggestion is that when you first remove him from the actual area where the fry are that you leave him in a container within the tank in case he has got a few fry in his mouth. After about 15 mins put him where ever you are going to keep him.

You really can only hope so. IME and I've now had nearly 3 years of breeding fighters the majority will - as they absorb their sac - find the strength to get themselves back up if the male doesn't do it. Trying to help them doesn't work and will only upset the male. If he's ignoring some then they probably are not viable anyway. Some won't make it but for everyone that doesn't theres probably another you can't see that will. Take it from me - if you get 50 that make it past the air breathing stage that will be absolutely plenty for you to look after. It takes quite a bit of time to manage even that many fighters. The strongest will survive and thats what you want. They are the ones that will grow the biggest and have the best finnage. The small and weak won't.

Thats it If your sponge filter is running, turn it right down and after a few days slowly turn it up again. I think the suction will be too strong for the newly hatched fry to pull away from it to swim. If its not running leave it off for a few days and then very very slowly turn it on and up.

Lol! Up all night were you? Leave him in there, any assistance he can give the fry until they are strong enough to get themselves back up with increase the numbers you have survive. Not all will make it though. Leave him there until about midday tomorrow. He won't eat them but may carry them in his mouth for a while. How many do you think you have? and then multiply it by about 3 and you should be about right. Congratulations on being a daddy :lol:

Lol! Up all night were you? Leave him in there, any assistance he can give the fry until they are strong enough to get themselves back up with increase the numbers you have survive. Not all will make it though. How many do you think you have? and then multiply it by about 3 and you should be about right. Congratulations on being a daddy :lol:

I have a sump on my tank about the size of yours. Now I have it sorted it works brilliantly Its not pre drilled, it has a tunze overflow (sort of hang over) box on it. Can stack heaps and heaps of media in it and the flow is superb now I have invested in a really good pump.

I would go back to them anyway. For something that costs that much I would expect it to last longer and if they want it to have a good reputation it would be worth them fixing it for you.

If you are going to have problems it will be between the angel, gourami and fighter as they have the reputation of not always getting along. However hopefully they will sort it out and settle.

So they're still in the egg stage then. You will I think find that the tail is just inside the eggs case covering. Over the next 4-6 hours I imagine. In the morning they should be fry.

Well... it could have been worse. They could have all been males.

Are they still encased in the egg sack? or are they all stuck together.

that all of my hair algae in the tank has suddenly disappeared. I have just increased my turnover through my sump to 2400 approx litres an hour from (and I'm guessing here), about 1600 litres an hour. Would it be that or the fact that the flourish excel I've been dosing for about a month is having an effect. Unfortunately though nothing is slowing the black beard algae at the moment.

Both being anabantoids they are possibly never going to get on particularly if the gourami is a male. What else is in the tank?

Thats it, the tail will come unstuck. Congratulations, now the fun really will begin. You'll be like the clucky hen with chicks fussing and fluffing every day.

it'll look very much like the root off a piece of duckweed or like a piece of string hanging down from the bubbles, you probably won't be able to see the head at all. As they hatch they will start to fall to the bottom of the tank and the male will spit them back up as well. If you don't know what you're looking for it will be very hard to see them, if you've got a magnifying glass it would help. The other thing you may see if you look carefully and have good eye sight is that the eggs have a black or two black dots in them - these are the eyes. Part of the egg will be white and part clear. The white is the head and egg sac, the tail wraps around the inside of the bubble above the clear bit. Don't know if I explained that very well?

I don't know enough (still learning) to offer filter advice but I am running a 2400 litre per hour pump through the sump for my 1500 x 60 x 60 tank (450l). I do water changes 25-30% once or twice a week depending on the time I have available. My discus (6) are around the 10cm+ mark. also 9 cories, 4 bn and 4 sae. The best advice I was probably given was not to feed heart as it would make it too hard to clean the tank properly. I feed blood worms and pellets instead. They are happy, healthy and growing. Look around and see if you can visit others with these fish, look at their setups, ask heaps of questions and then decide what you think is right.

Just be careful about adding salt to your tank - some fish etc won't tolerate it and if you do use it it needs to be at a regulated dose.

Oh and I've just remembered MAKE SURE YOU LEAVE THE TANK LIGHT ON TONIGHT OR HE WON'T BE ABLE TO SEE WHATS HAPPENING!!!

For goodness sake - don't panic, you are worse than me If the eggs are good he will eventually pick them up and put them back. They seem to know if the eggs are fertile. By mid-late afternoon tomorrow they will probably begin to hatch and continue to do so until at least the following day. I had a male once who kept going up to his nest and thrashing around underneath it spilling eggs everywhere. He still hatched heaps. Even if there only seems to be a few there at the end of it keep tending to the tank like there are fry. IME there are always some that survive even when you think nothing has hatched.

split them up for a bit and then start over again. Suggest a couple of weeks.

thats quite normal behaviour. put some plant or something else in the tank that she can run and hide behind. eventually when she's ready she'll come out. if she's being badly knocked around remove her, leave her where she can see him and vice versa and try again in another 8 or so hours.

yep, plenty old enough. anytime from about 8 weeks on mine start given the right motivation :roll:

switch this to the anabantoid section - you'll get more hits and advice there.

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sounds okay - leave them alone for the night, and hopefully they will spawn around first light tomorrow morning.