siftyzod Posted March 20, 2012 Report Share Posted March 20, 2012 Hi there i am looking for some help on fish breeding. I currently have black neon tetras columbian tetras kranbinsis tbars and convicts i am trying to breed. Not one breeding pair is even remotely interested in breeding. have been trying to condition etc for almost a year and never had any eggs the guppies are doing ok in a year i have 30 babies that im raising up. so can anyone tell me what is the best way to get them to breed. all the females are full of eggs but when put with males dont do anything? the tetras all have peat water and hte other fish are all been fed live food. the tetra tank ph level is around 6.0-6.5 so and all egg laying tanks have a mesh in the bottom to stop the parents eating the eggs so im not sure what i am missing here can anyone enlighten me on what i can try next as i have exhusted all internet sites and am just going in circles now Please any help would be great ps . i have no idea how to check the water hardness or softness so no point in asking me anything about that Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirt Posted March 20, 2012 Report Share Posted March 20, 2012 Try to focus on getting one fish to breed. If you have all those fish in one tank, it is most likely that the other fish will just eat all the eggs. First you have to look at; do you have enough room for 100 fry if they do spawn? Secondly, once you've selected on what one fish you want to breed, find out the requirements to breed them (cold water changes, pH, temperature, feeding ect). My idea is to put them in one species tank to try and get them to breed. HTH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caryl Posted March 20, 2012 Report Share Posted March 20, 2012 The tetras will need their own breeding tank and special conditions re pH, spawning material, lighting etc. Kribs and convicts usually just need water. If you are serious about breeding you need a separate tank for the breeding pair otherwise the eggs and/or fry get eaten and, as said, you need to consider what you will do with the fry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siftyzod Posted March 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 The tetras will need their own breeding tank and special conditions re pH, spawning material, lighting etc. Kribs and convicts usually just need water. If you are serious about breeding you need a separate tank for the breeding pair otherwise the eggs and/or fry get eaten and, as said, you need to consider what you will do with the fry. Hi there sorry my bad i should have put all the fish are in different tanks a pair to a tank thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hovmoller Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 As said above you need to separate the different species to different tanks.. then research (google) as much info on each species as you can regarding keeping and breeding and then try to create whatever is required for each species in each tank. You can't just plonk a whole bunch of different fish together in one tank and expect them to do "what fish does". Fish are different you know.. with different needs and different ways of doing things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheepsnana Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 I think what siftyzod is trying to say is that he already has put each pair into their own tank, and has been trying for a year to get each pair to breed by simulating their natural environment as best as they can, in an aquarium, and they were wondering if we have some magic "aha!" hint that will make it work. Have you tried a trio instead of a pair? Sometimes a bit of competition gets them going. Have you tried separating them for two weeks? Sometimes welcome home piow piow works. Hope this helps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirt Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 Separating the males and females while conditioning them for breeding. Try feeding them live foods and a good variety. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siftyzod Posted March 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 Hi just to clear up a couple of things i forget to add i only have 1 pair of fish in each tank i have a few tanks setup for breeding today i put all the kribinsis in the same tank and hoping they will spawn. the convicts are doing nothing but sitting there the black neons doing nothing columbian tetras doing nothing danios doing nothing tbars doing nothing i am sure there is something i am missing in the breeding stage i condition the fish with live food small water changes etc read up on each fish and how to get them to breed....fish that are suppose to be easy to breed just do nothing have sold off other breeding pairs and within days of the new owner having them spawn... so if im missing something would be really keen to knwo what it is as its doing my head in Glenn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrienne Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 I think that by putting all the kribs in one tank you have a better chance of them pairing up. Just make sure you give them plenty of plant cover and rocks/caves for them to spawn on. Apart from that all you can do it wait it out. Try giving a good feed of bloodworms followed by a decent, say 50% water change. Often that triggers a spawning. I take it you are on tap water as opposed to tank water. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siftyzod Posted March 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 I think that by putting all the kribs in one tank you have a better chance of them pairing up. Just make sure you give them plenty of plant cover and rocks/caves for them to spawn on. Apart from that all you can do it wait it out. Try giving a good feed of bloodworms followed by a decent, say 50% water change. Often that triggers a spawning. I take it you are on tap water as opposed to tank water. thank you heaps we are going to give them a feed of bloodworms now and will do a 50%water change once they consume all the food we put in thank you heaps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrazyGeoff Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 And after that, do nothing for a couple or three weeks. Then start up your water changes again. Make sure the Kirbs have a cave. Best of luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LYNDYLOO Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 Cold Water changes also work wonders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hovmoller Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 Sorry for the misunderstanding.. Sounds to me you are doing things right... Kribs and convicts are known for breeding in almost any conditions so it's a bit weird they have done nothing. Assuming you have both male and female I can only think that it could be water quality.. Do you change the water often and have good bio filtration? oh yeah and like Geoff said give the kribs some sort of cave.. that helps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siftyzod Posted March 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 Sorry for the misunderstanding.. Sounds to me you are doing things right... Kribs and convicts are known for breeding in almost any conditions so it's a bit weird they have done nothing. Assuming you have both male and female I can only think that it could be water quality.. Do you change the water often and have good bio filtration? oh yeah and like Geoff said give the kribs some sort of cave.. that helps Hi there yes aim to do a 20% water change weekly and filters are all good.. not sure what else to try Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cricketman Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 Barry White??? :thup: It hard to determine exactly what each pairs problem might be in one succinct explanation... All I can suggest is try find as much information possible about each individual species breeding habits. Sometimes water change can bring it on, sometimes it is pH dependent, sometimes light dependent, or whatever... And depending on requirements for the eggs to survive (some are light sensitive, some get fungus easier, some are sticky, some might need a specific temp/pH etc). So as you can see, there are far to many variables that any one particular thing that you may be doing or not doing would have you not seeing a result. The hardest variable being stock quality (almost totally out of your control) and whether there is any noticeable sexual dimorphism,so that you can guarantee that you have a decent M:F ratio... Speaking of which, you may also find breeding trio's are a good idea for most (but not all) species. My advice to you is, choose one species you REALLY want to get breeding, research the **** out of it and concentrate on that, then move onto your others. Google is your friend! :thup: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LYNDYLOO Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 Are your fishies of Breeding age, there is a possibility that they are too young :roll: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 What part of town are you in. There may be a local who could drop in and help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siftyzod Posted March 22, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2012 found out why convicts wont breed they are two males were told they were thought to be a pair but they wernt to sure themselfs so now brought some more still a bit young yet but will be ok when they are bigger did a 50% water change on the kribs and fed them bloodworms last night also moved a rock round to give them more room to get under them as that seems to be what they like so hoping to see results tonight or tommorrow am also waiting on almond leaves that should arrive tommorow for the tetras have a tank for females and for males and have been feeding them live food such as mosquito larvae and microworms as well as bloodworms Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siftyzod Posted March 22, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2012 we are in philliptown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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