s3xtcy Posted July 10, 2011 Report Share Posted July 10, 2011 Looking for persuasive arguments to help me make my mind up to sell my UFO880 Tropical and get a Juwel Rio 400 and sump it for a Marine setup.... Anyone had to or wanted to switch? What do you find are the pros / cons of Marine vs Tropical? ongoing costs, ease of maintenance, initial setup costs, etc..? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrienne Posted July 10, 2011 Report Share Posted July 10, 2011 http://www.fnzas.org.nz/fishroom/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=23675 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s3xtcy Posted July 10, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2011 yup, read that thanks I know this is a pretty silly post, but I was incredibly undecided. I think that I have decided to sell my UFO and go Marine.. I know its a lot of cost involved, and a lot of learning again.. but ive always wanted salt water.. and this tank is (hopefully) a pretty good deal... Thanks guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix44 Posted July 10, 2011 Report Share Posted July 10, 2011 How much money have you budgeted for this purpose? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Posted July 10, 2011 Report Share Posted July 10, 2011 Looking for persuasive arguments to help me make my mind up to sell my UFO880 Tropical and get a Juwel Rio 400 and sump it for a Marine setup.... Anyone had to or wanted to switch? What do you find are the pros / cons of Marine vs Tropical? ongoing costs, ease of maintenance, initial setup costs, etc..? Average fish price is around $150, water changes with ASW will cost maybe $20, plan on spending $2000 at least on hardware... Wait, you wanted me to convince you TO switch? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the-obstacle Posted July 10, 2011 Report Share Posted July 10, 2011 How much money have you budgeted for this purpose? +1 - I'm in the process of building a 50L fish only marine and it's costly but not too bad. I think if it's something you want to do then go for it. The only advice I can give is - plan EVERYTHING first. Enjoy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s3xtcy Posted July 10, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2011 How much money have you budgeted for this purpose? well.. considering when I first started out with Fresh I budgeted no more that $800 and so far I think ive about quadrupled that I havnt really budgeted, tank is $1600 setup with a very large canister filter, and extra lighting.. not sure what else it comes with and need to find out more info. Basically I got offered it today and went home to measure where it would fit. I Think I would like to sump it, to hide the heater and some live rock.. and the skimmer, I know someone who can do the drilling etc (professionally ) What do you think is a fair budget? Wanting the normal clown fish, anenomes, starfish, etc, but no idea what fish can go with what.. alot of learning to do yet! Average fish price is around $150, water changes with ASW will cost maybe $20, plan on spending $2000 at least on hardware... Wait, you wanted me to convince you TO switch? Yes please hehe, but whats ASW? is that salt added to water or "actual salt water"? meaning from the sea? thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s3xtcy Posted July 10, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2011 +1 - I'm in the process of building a 50L fish only marine and it's costly but not too bad. I think if it's something you want to do then go for it. The only advice I can give is - plan EVERYTHING first. Enjoy! Thanks, i have a feeling this should probably end up in the saltwater section.. as now questions are starting to nag me, like, what sort of skimmer is needed for a 400l + Sump setup? How much live rock, etc etc... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirt Posted July 10, 2011 Report Share Posted July 10, 2011 ASW=artificial salt water. Sorry that's all I know about marines Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evil_elmo Posted July 10, 2011 Report Share Posted July 10, 2011 having a reef tank is a addiction which costs heaps to stock and maintain, having just marine fish is easy and not that costly i say go for it if you have the spare cash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caryl Posted July 10, 2011 Report Share Posted July 10, 2011 My neighbour has just returned from a holiday in Rarotonga and now thinks he would like to set up a marine also 8) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anthony law Posted July 11, 2011 Report Share Posted July 11, 2011 go for both... :digH: :gigl: 2000x600x600 coldwater marine cost me so far is $65 for the tank and stand $180 for the repair $400 for the chiller $185 for the skimmer $100 for flow pumps $148 for retrun pump $40 for marine bulbs x4 $80 plumping sump free spare tank modfired ligths i had a spare four foots ligths x2 salt mix free out of the sea.. life stock free out of the sea so it own me so far $1198 not bad for frist setup.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silentone Posted July 11, 2011 Report Share Posted July 11, 2011 Woo more mariners!!!! Average fish isn't $150, Prices are dropping so hopefully equipment will too.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spoon Posted July 11, 2011 Report Share Posted July 11, 2011 prices can vary so much there are some cheaper equipment out there getting good reveiws too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarrodrussell Posted July 11, 2011 Report Share Posted July 11, 2011 well switched from freash to salt water to but i just used the same 40L jebo tank i had before it was $40 for 5 kgs of rock $30-for salt that makes 130L $10-therometer $40 for large spectrum container of food $20 for power head $20 on sand $45-yellow tail damsel $80 for 2 perc clown fish $35 for white sps coral $25 for monterpora plate $15 tongan coral thats all i have spent on my tank every and i have had it for about 5-6 months doing water changes once a month or untill nutriant levels have dropped which i can tell because my tongan coral wont open all its poylps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reptilez Posted July 11, 2011 Report Share Posted July 11, 2011 well switched from freash to salt water to but i just used the same 40L jebo tank i had before it was $40 for 5 kgs of rock $30-for salt that makes 130L $10-therometer $40 for large spectrum container of food $20 for power head $20 on sand $45-yellow tail damsel $80 for 2 perc clown fish $35 for white sps coral $25 for monterpora plate $15 tongan coral thats all i have spent on my tank every and i have had it for about 5-6 months doing water changes once a month or untill nutriant levels have dropped which i can tell because my tongan coral wont open all its poylps hygrometer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s3xtcy Posted July 11, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2011 Woo more mariners!!!! Average fish isn't $150, Prices are dropping so hopefully equipment will too.. haha yes, more mariners Thanks for the warm hearted welcome Im seriousally undecided about the tank though.. its a Juwel Rio 400, but im not sure if I want the Rio400 or if I want a Vision 450.. argh! *pulling hair out!!* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s3xtcy Posted July 11, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2011 well switched from freash to salt water to but i just used the same 40L jebo tank i had before it was $40 for 5 kgs of rock $30-for salt that makes 130L $10-therometer $40 for large spectrum container of food $20 for power head $20 on sand $45-yellow tail damsel $80 for 2 perc clown fish $35 for white sps coral $25 for monterpora plate $15 tongan coral thats all i have spent on my tank every and i have had it for about 5-6 months doing water changes once a month or untill nutriant levels have dropped which i can tell because my tongan coral wont open all its poylps Really only 40 L??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reef Posted July 11, 2011 Report Share Posted July 11, 2011 Average fish isn't $150, Prices are dropping so hopefully equipment will too.. Really, since when are prices dropping? best advice is if you can't afford it then don't start a marine tank, Budget tanks never do well in the long run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silentone Posted July 11, 2011 Report Share Posted July 11, 2011 haha yes, more mariners Thanks for the warm hearted welcome Im seriousally undecided about the tank though.. its a Juwel Rio 400, but im not sure if I want the Rio400 or if I want a Vision 450.. argh! *pulling hair out!!* Heres my rio 400.. Not looking the best at the moment.. bulbs i brought are crap and causing bad algae but new bulbs here soon :thup: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silentone Posted July 11, 2011 Report Share Posted July 11, 2011 Really, since when are prices dropping? best advice is if you can't afford it then don't start a marine tank, Budget tanks never do well in the long run. Honestly reef :an!gry Stop trying to put people off the hobby :facepalm: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reef Posted July 11, 2011 Report Share Posted July 11, 2011 Stop giving people false information Silentone, It cost what it cost, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silentone Posted July 11, 2011 Report Share Posted July 11, 2011 Stop giving people false information Silentone, It cost what it cost, You were exactly the same when i started out, you were so rude and it was putting me off the hobby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myfishybuisness Posted July 11, 2011 Report Share Posted July 11, 2011 http://www.fnzas.org.nz/fishroom/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=53772 ???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silentone Posted July 11, 2011 Report Share Posted July 11, 2011 http://www.fnzas.org.nz/fishroom/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=53772 ???? Yeah reef that looks pretty cheap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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