ally07 Posted June 23, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 23, 2011 this picture http://www.imperialarowana.com/gallery.php?gid=127-3fe8ad317d looks more like under whtie light, that is realistic p[erhaps its a vip from imperial, i would be happy wit that :happy1: Geez.. That is truly blood red lol. The guys in the breeding farm video are so rough with the fish lol! You'd think they would be a bit gentler with fish worth a few grand.. :roll: does anyone own a siver with no drop eye? I'm pretty sure that the super expensive platinum silver arowana doesn't have DE either. But with that fish, any flaw would be unforgivable! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henward Posted June 23, 2011 Report Share Posted June 23, 2011 yeah, as much as drop eye is undesirable. its not that big a deal, if it can eat, has good shape colour and health, cant complain really. in the wild, some silvers get dropeye. it perhaps may be genetic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David R Posted June 23, 2011 Report Share Posted June 23, 2011 I find it a big deal, even though the fish seem to live normal lives with it, it would just continually irk me which is why I wouldn't keep one. Koji on MFK has posted several pics of his comm tanks with a bunch of good sized silvers all with no DE, but he ignores anyone who asks how! I've often wondered if its not to do with having bright lights above the tank and constantly looking down and not up when hunting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hovmoller Posted June 23, 2011 Report Share Posted June 23, 2011 constantly looking down and not up when hunting. Yeah there is usually too much going on below an arowana in an aquarium. Have just seen the legendary doco "rivers of the sun" and in their natural habitat I think it's usually pretty dark and murky below and they are constantly looking for food on or above the surace. Agree DE is naff! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henward Posted June 23, 2011 Report Share Posted June 23, 2011 it would annoy me too but not the end of the world i guess. i have seen silvers here with no drop eye, feeding pellets may stop it as they constantly h unt upwards, wonder what the reason is, no one really knows right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ally07 Posted June 24, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 I'm not entirely sure I buy the whole "looking down" theory. I mean, how much does an aro need to look down before it develops DE? Even if there are bottom dwellers in the tank, it wouldn't mean that the aro would be looking down 24/7. Something I've observed recently about aro eyesight. When I throw mealworms in and they float, my aro will see them and eat them. If they start to sink, he will still see them if they are in the 90 deg angle between the level of his eye and the top of the water where his head is. Once it drops a further 5 deg lower than his eye level, he doesn't see it anymore and doesn't chase it. Even if he is far away enough to see the mealworm dropping, he will pursue it, but once it drops below the level of vision, he turns around as though nothing happened. This is reasonable, since aros are top/ middle feeders, that's why their eyes are designed like that. Lots of fish keepers in Asia keep aros with stingrays with no DE. I suspect that at the end of the day, it's a low-fat diet with good genes that will guarantee no DE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David R Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 I'm not convinced about the diet thing (although it may help), I did keep a silver for a short while and despite eating nothing but pellets and prawn it started to develop it. Interesting observation about the sinking mealworms, but its hard to tell if he's not seeing them or just ignoring them. My green would spot pieces of shrimp on the bottom of the tank and scoop them up, and so does my black, so they certainly see downwards when they want to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henward Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 yeah, definitely, all my aros in the past can see down, but some of them tend to ignore it. the jar would take ANYTHING it can in the tank. my black aro was lazier. RTG would eat anything it felt like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ally07 Posted June 24, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 I'm not convinced about the diet thing (although it may help), I did keep a silver for a short while and despite eating nothing but pellets and prawn it started to develop it. Interesting observation about the sinking mealworms, but its hard to tell if he's not seeing them or just ignoring them. My green would spot pieces of shrimp on the bottom of the tank and scoop them up, and so does my black, so they certainly see downwards when they want to. Ohh man, now I think the case really is genetic lol! But does that mean that Koji just picked all the right silvers?? With the sinking food, even though some of them he completely misses because it's out of his vision, some of them he blatantly ignores. For instance, if I drop a piece of shrimp and he's too far away to get it quickly enough, he will pursue until it hits the ground. He knows it hit the ground, he saw it, but he won't touch it after that. This is where I curse and grumble and roll up my sleeves and retrieve the prawn before it starts rotting. :an!gry I think my green is a prima donna. :roll: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David R Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 They all have different personalities! Maybe you need a couple of big bichirs to pick up the shrimp he misses, I had the opposite problem, I couldn't get the green or dats to leave any sunken prawn for my ornate!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ally07 Posted June 24, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 They all have different personalities! Maybe you need a couple of big bichirs to pick up the shrimp he misses, I had the opposite problem, I couldn't get the green or dats to leave any sunken prawn for my ornate!! My ornate isn't big enough to eat the chunks of prawn yet.. :facepalm: But eventually he will! I'm also growing out an albino and a delhezi in my sump till they are big enough to not be eaten/ to fight for their own share of food. Still tempted by the palmas, but really can't afford anymore fish at the moment lol.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henward Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 nothing rots in the red tank thats for sure. anything that drops past halfway is snatched up! prawn, beef, beefer mix, pellet, clown loaches, barb, flagtail will snatch it up instantly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ally07 Posted June 25, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2011 nothing rots in the red tank thats for sure. anything that drops past halfway is snatched up! prawn, beef, beefer mix, pellet, clown loaches, barb, flagtail will snatch it up instantly. lol, I wish I had space for such a large cleanup crew! On another note, I just read something on Facebook. Some disgruntled house maid in Singapore poured CHLOROX into the employer's ARO COMM TANK. Looks like there were about 10+ fish inside, I think I spotted some RTGs, but can't be sure. Sickening. :sick: :an!gry http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150209484853155.309767.262947298154 You should be able to view the album because it's linked through SPCA Singapore's Facebook page. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hovmoller Posted June 25, 2011 Report Share Posted June 25, 2011 "Mischief by killing or maiming any animal 428. Whoever commits mischief by killing, poisoning, maiming or rendering useless, any animal shall be punished with imprisonment for a term which may extend to 5 years, or with fine, or with both." Excellent law! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ally07 Posted June 25, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2011 Excellent law! lol, if you liked that one, there are pages and pages more like it in the Singaporean Penal Code haha.. Draconian in some aspects, but nice to know that they do care about animals.. &c:ry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henward Posted June 25, 2011 Report Share Posted June 25, 2011 I can guarantee you, in singapore if she is still in the country - she will be punished severely. here in nz, you will hardly get proper jail time i believe there, she would be jailed and lashed regularly as punishment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ally07 Posted June 25, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2011 Firstly, inhumane and disgusting. Secondly, it's like being actively passive-aggressive lol. She's got a problem with the employer but doesn't do anything about it, instead kills all his fish. Sheesh, some people! :roll: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#!CrunchBang Posted June 25, 2011 Report Share Posted June 25, 2011 If someone did that to any of my pets, I'd be furious and probably hospitalise them :an!gry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ally07 Posted June 27, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 27, 2011 Stumbled onto an old post on Arofanatics and saw the most horrible thing. This silver was kept by an old man (the member's father in law) in a 2ft tank. Somehow the silver managed to grow to an estimated length of 60cm (2ft)!! This is really proof that fish don't "grow to the size of their tanks".. Biggest aquarium myth ever! The fish looks so sad! :tears: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henward Posted June 27, 2011 Report Share Posted June 27, 2011 this is very common in asia. even expensive asian aros are kept in 4 foot or 3 foot tanks, they can hardly turn. and yes ik have seen monsters in small tanks, but i think generally speaking, they dont grow as big in small tanks, this may be a fluke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ally07 Posted June 29, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 29, 2011 !drool: Anybody want to go halfsies? :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#!CrunchBang Posted June 29, 2011 Report Share Posted June 29, 2011 They have a pearl at Aquaworld Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ally07 Posted June 29, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 29, 2011 They have a pearl at Aquaworld :lol: the aro in the video is not a pearl.. It's a platinum white crossback - I don't even want to IMAGINE the price tag haha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henward Posted June 30, 2011 Report Share Posted June 30, 2011 http://www.arofanatics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=468320 check this out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David R Posted June 30, 2011 Report Share Posted June 30, 2011 Here's a good example of the difference lighting makes; http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?424735-Suuuuuuuuuuuper-Reeeeeeeeeeeed Check out the pic on page one compared to page two... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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