Insect Direct Posted December 30, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2010 Good one. That is exactly what I would do. If you find it hard to pry open its mouth for a feed, shout out as I can give you some tips. When giving her the marmite water earlier. I sort of eased the syring into the side of her mouth/lips, she didnt open up much, but enough for me to slowly inject solution. Took a couple of attempts, she was getting stressed hence didnt try a bug today. Any tips appreciated as I can see it being a challenge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jennifer Posted December 30, 2010 Report Share Posted December 30, 2010 if Jennifer is still on here would crushed charcoal tablet help absorb anything in the beardies system?Yes, but only if there is a causative toxin within the digestive tract - something that it had eaten within the last day. Considering how long it had been going on, I wouldn't think it would be of much help. Wouldn't hurt though, as far as I know. Any tips appreciated as I can see it being a challenge. That is a good method, but the key is to be quick about it to minimise the stress. One way to do that is to have someone restrain the animal's body (or you can wrap it in a towel - beardie burrito style -and tuck it under your arm with its head in the hand of the same arm). Assuming you are right-handed, point the animal's head toward your right side and place your left hand hand over the head so that your index finger and thumb are on either side of the head/mouth. Use your right hand to move the syringe into place and deposit the food into the mouth. Blob of food, wait a second for it to swallow, repeat two or three times until you have given the desired amount. The whole process should not take more than a minute or so. Get it down right and you will spend very little time struggling - less stress for animal and handler. Small frequent meals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insect Direct Posted December 30, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2010 Thank you, that sounds like a much better way to do it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insect Direct Posted December 30, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2010 She had a couple of chews on the insect then spat it out. Got my finger caught up in the process, shes still got plenty of strength. Did blender mix. Couldnt see pulp going up syringe, so seived out juice. Have given her a little using the burrito method . Will see how she looks in an hour or so, may give her some more mid avo. Could spoon pulp into mouth?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jennifer Posted December 30, 2010 Report Share Posted December 30, 2010 Absolutely, spoon away. If you don't mind modifying your syringe you can widen the tip by sticking a metal skewer or phillips screwdriver in the end and wiggling it around a bit. You can also buy lavage or catheter tip syringes at a pharmacy and can cut the tip off to the point at which the opening is large enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insect Direct Posted December 30, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2010 Your onto it, ill just modify the plastic syringe ive got Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tezza D Posted December 30, 2010 Report Share Posted December 30, 2010 Sorry to hear your BD girl isn't doing too well ID (and for your loss of the one last year. ) I hope she comes right and pulls through ok. Good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insect Direct Posted December 31, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2010 cheers td she didnt like syring, bit down on it with enough force to crack it, and almost took a chunk out of the tip of my finger :roll: ouch but my fault lol i dunno jo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insect Direct Posted December 31, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2010 she passed another yellow motion yesterday (like pic earlier) this morning same deal but with a little fecal to go with it. maybe a good sign... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingart Posted December 31, 2010 Report Share Posted December 31, 2010 sounds good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jennifer Posted December 31, 2010 Report Share Posted December 31, 2010 Faeces are good, shows she is getting something in (must have 'ins' to have 'outs') and that the intestines are at least somewhat clear and working. Keep the food and liquids up. Flushing out the system may be one of the best things you can do right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insect Direct Posted December 31, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2010 she passed some urate about half an hour age, was still straining after, walking forward, looked like she was trying to push an egg out. sort of looked like a pink finger protruding 10mm but went back in. gave her a bath but nothing passed. back on her basking rock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingart Posted December 31, 2010 Report Share Posted December 31, 2010 sort of looked like a pink finger protruding 10mm but went back in. maybe trying to pass the blockage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insect Direct Posted December 31, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2010 could i give her some olive oil or something to loosen her up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingart Posted December 31, 2010 Report Share Posted December 31, 2010 i was wondering the same thing may not want to upset the gut too much though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insect Direct Posted December 31, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2010 to true. will stick to getting some food into her. she's not looking too bad. or atleast no worse. tempted to say starting to look better but maybe bit early for that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingart Posted January 1, 2011 Report Share Posted January 1, 2011 don't give into temptation yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insect Direct Posted January 1, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 1, 2011 put her in a tank with sand about an hour and a half ago. thought if she wants to lay then you never know. hour passed nothing and she hadnt even moved. put back in her normal enclosure. just checked and lo and behold an egg on the turf :happy1: crazy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Insect Direct Posted January 1, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 1, 2011 im stoked, shes sitting in her water bowl now. fingers shes on the up egg looks ok too surprisingly. little low on calcium maybe.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingart Posted January 1, 2011 Report Share Posted January 1, 2011 little low on calcium maybe. a possibility could also be a result of the egg production having shut down and still getting back to proper function the 2 possible yolks she passed may have been stopped in oviduct due to temp drop or some other anomaly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insect Direct Posted January 1, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 1, 2011 one more egg :happy1: edit make that 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insect Direct Posted January 1, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 1, 2011 and another (4 total) she will be laying into the night at this rate :roll: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingart Posted January 1, 2011 Report Share Posted January 1, 2011 http://wvc.omnibooksonline.com/data/pap ... 6_V414.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insect Direct Posted January 1, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 1, 2011 Is a good read cheers. Nothing about magic marmite in there though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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