anthony law Posted November 7, 2010 Report Share Posted November 7, 2010 any large cat fish out there what species that available in nz to go in a 3500x1000x800 high tank that not a plec... can you get iridsescent sharks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David R Posted November 7, 2010 Report Share Posted November 7, 2010 can you get iridsescent sharks There is at least one in NZ alive, have seen it in preson and its a monster! Would make a tank of the dimensions you stated look small, IMO. Unfortunately we don't get any of the larger non-suckermouth cats here, I'd love to get my hands on M. irwini or M. tigrinus but I don't fancy my chances of getting them added to the list given the hysteria associated with "catfish"... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Posted November 7, 2010 Report Share Posted November 7, 2010 There is at least one in NZ alive, have seen it in preson and its a monster! Would make a tank of the dimensions you stated look small, IMO. Unfortunately we don't get any of the larger non-suckermouth cats here, I'd love to get my hands on M. irwini or M. tigrinus but I don't fancy my chances of getting them added to the list given the hysteria associated with "catfish"... There are redtail cats around, but I don't know about new imports. They definitely qualify as large. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anthony law Posted November 7, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2010 ill love a red tail cat..do you know of any one got one....ira cheers daivd.....it whould be cool if they add them tho... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fruju Posted November 7, 2010 Report Share Posted November 7, 2010 Heard of them around but don't think you're the only one who would like them :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Posted November 7, 2010 Report Share Posted November 7, 2010 ill love a red tail cat..do you know of any one got one....ira cheers daivd.....it whould be cool if they add them tho... I think you're going to need a bigger tank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingart Posted November 7, 2010 Report Share Posted November 7, 2010 hurry up and get the tank finished Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anthony law Posted November 7, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2010 its on the stand just waiting for the firbglass to get stonger ill be away Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henward Posted November 7, 2010 Report Share Posted November 7, 2010 redtail cat... yes - your tank will be too small, its a solid 1 Metre plus pparently, when they get that huge, they get thick, heavy, probably upwards of 40 kgs. ID shark, yes - your tank may be just enough. but not sure if you can actually get it, it might belong to someone elwse already. saw it years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.PROPHECY Posted November 7, 2010 Report Share Posted November 7, 2010 i think yout tank could hold a red tail better than most , the ones here will most likely be slightly stunted anyway there is a few shovelnoses and red tails around , just got to ask around , they are getting old though.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malevolentsparkle Posted November 7, 2010 Report Share Posted November 7, 2010 I remember when HWFF had a adult redtail. boy that thing was massive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanjury Posted November 7, 2010 Report Share Posted November 7, 2010 i think yout tank could hold a red tail better than most , the ones here will most likely be slightly stunted anyway there is a few shovelnoses and red tails around , just got to ask around , they are getting old though.. Any chance anyone can get the red tails/shovelnoses together and try and breed them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.PROPHECY Posted November 7, 2010 Report Share Posted November 7, 2010 never been captive breed as far as i know maybe in a muddy pond , herd they can lay a million eggs haha crazy! red tails are apprently migrant spawner's, traveling huge distances reach their spawning grounds....mite be same with shovelnoses , so i doubt this will ever happen here in nz anyway erhmmm bullheads anyone.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malevolentsparkle Posted November 7, 2010 Report Share Posted November 7, 2010 erhmmm bullheads anyone.. used to have one of those... long story Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David R Posted November 7, 2010 Report Share Posted November 7, 2010 Search on MFK for "rtcxtsn", red tailed cat/ tiger shovelnose hybrids are pretty common overseas. Would require a pretty large set up to try do it here, and then you'd have to find the fish! cheers daivd.....it whould be cool if they add them tho... TBH I'm actually glad we dont. Some of the medium size species [like the two I mentioned before] can be housed in a large tank because they aren't particularly active, but I doubt there are many people here who are willing and able to provide for a huge catfish like a RTC or paroon shark. I've seen both at 4'+ in public aquaria overseas, and even if your tank could physically house them it would be far from ideal, akin to housing a foot long oscar in a 4' tank. If you could get a RTC you'd also be pretty limited with what you could keep with in, maybe a couple of pacus and a huge old silver aro, they have enormous mouths and eyes even bigger than their stomach. IMO you'd probably enjoy your tank a whole lot more keeping a selection of medium sized fish so you can actually see their natural behaviour in such a large space. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.PROPHECY Posted November 8, 2010 Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 mmm same agro as tho haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix44 Posted November 8, 2010 Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 Jeepers! There are literally a handful of tanks worldwide that would be able to cater for a redtail catfish! Almost the same deal with shovelnoses although I can tell you that they won't come in as pictus catfish like the last time! :lol: (that's for sure) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David R Posted November 8, 2010 Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 Almost the same deal with shovelnoses although I can tell you that they won't come in as pictus catfish like the last time! :lol: (that's for sure) Depends on the species of shovelnose, some of the smaller ones like lima or tigrinus will be alright in medium sized tanks as they top out at under 2' . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anthony law Posted November 8, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 i always like the look of the shovelnoses.they one pretty cool cat... .i didnt think there was any in nz tho.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingart Posted November 8, 2010 Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 Jeepers! There are literally a handful of tanks worldwide that would be able to cater for a redtail catfish! Almost the same deal with shovelnoses although I can tell you that they won't come in as pictus catfish like the last time! :lol: (that's for sure) i know of 3 tanks in nz that could hold one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix44 Posted November 8, 2010 Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 Not exactly a lot is it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingart Posted November 8, 2010 Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 those are private tanks i know of, probably more out there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henward Posted November 8, 2010 Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 i somewhat agree with david, tsn and RTC are huge, they get huge! therea re plenty of monster cats out there that dont get as huge its similar to having PACU and ARAPAIMA in LFS - its riduclous, really, the logistics of keeping them long term is difficult, most would never infvest in set ups that are able to house them. in asia, they are kept mainly in ponds when large, kept with aros and other monsters. here, we dcant do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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