Insect Direct Posted September 1, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2010 good one id,also good to know not everyone is motivated by the dollar? Cheers repto. More to life than being motivated solely by money. Alan - thats one theory, but i disagree. I believe albino has been bred to albino without any problems. Pretty sure what I said above, is more likely whats played a big part in them not being so readily available..and yes breeding season is upon us, ill be very surprised if im the only one who has these available in the coming months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
repto Posted September 1, 2010 Report Share Posted September 1, 2010 part of the problem could have been that some / most that were put out there had been rendered sterile by whatever means? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted September 1, 2010 Report Share Posted September 1, 2010 Lost my 6 big breeding females last year and my only male recently so will be into it with the splits as soon as there is a bit more food about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Navarre Posted September 1, 2010 Report Share Posted September 1, 2010 I am sorry if you thought I was having a dig ID. I meant that there was a lot of discussion an age ago and will always be a roundabout as far as these animals are concerned. I was not suggesting that despite being a comercial memebr here you were trying to make a large sum of $$ off these animals. I was trying to congratulate you on what so far appears a job well done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insect Direct Posted September 1, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2010 Alan - Thats no good mate. My original 3 female still going strong, must be close to 3 y/o now. Were purchased as adults though, so I wonder if they missed any interference to render infertile (if thats even possible with females). Please let me know if you have any luck with the splits i sold you. Ive had split over albino...yet to get split over split to spawn. The males seem to jump my albinos first if given a choice. Dont blame them the albinos are lookers lol Should be interesting to see what split x split produce. Navarre - no worries man, i took your post as a positive. I was just having a laugh with my post (maybe ive got a warped sense of humour) . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason22 Posted September 2, 2010 Report Share Posted September 2, 2010 from what i learnt in bio i believe that a Split X split will produce 25% albino, 50% albino split and 25% common green so good luck. my albinos are coming up two so should hopefully do something later this summer, if they are not unfertile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insect Direct Posted September 2, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 2, 2010 Hi Jason Thats exactly how i beleave the genetics to work, i just want to prove it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason22 Posted September 2, 2010 Report Share Posted September 2, 2010 yer the annoying thing is that you cant tell the splits for normals, but i guess if you've got albino babies the splits are not so important. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insect Direct Posted September 2, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 2, 2010 Yeah, maybe a good idea to cull the green ones. Turtles love tadpoles, dragons love frogs. Otherwise just keep them captive as pets. Dont release them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted September 2, 2010 Report Share Posted September 2, 2010 Because albinos are generally weaker I would expect less than 25%. There is not much point in keeping the normal lookers as you can't tell which are splits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingart Posted September 2, 2010 Report Share Posted September 2, 2010 breeding 2 of the greens together and getting albino young means both parents are split by using a split x albino the strain will be stromger md the yellow in offspring deeper continually breeding albino x albino may weakem the strain eventually Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Navarre Posted September 2, 2010 Report Share Posted September 2, 2010 also the % is over all matings not just one so in any one mating you may see 100% of something depending on gene "expression" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingart Posted September 2, 2010 Report Share Posted September 2, 2010 tighterjeans give you more expression Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insect Direct Posted September 2, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 2, 2010 breeding 2 of the greens together and getting albino young means both parents are split by using a split x albino the strain will be stromger md the yellow in offspring deeper continually breeding albino x albino may weakem the strain eventually thats what i thought..so even though its been a mission crossing out to normal green frogs, they should be stronger than ever. ive got another female which i beleave is unrelated, she will be added to the gene pool this summer aswel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingart Posted September 2, 2010 Report Share Posted September 2, 2010 often in life the long road is the better road Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cricketman Posted September 6, 2010 Report Share Posted September 6, 2010 from what i learnt in bio i believe that a Split X split will produce 25% albino, 50% albino split and 25% common green so good luck. my albinos are coming up two so should hopefully do something later this summer, if they are not unfertile. This assumes that Albinism is carried in one gene... You would also have learnt that there can be many genes in the genotype that control the phenotype, with some not expressed at all even if there is a dominance. All in all, unless you can map the entire genome of the species that your working on and isolate individual genotypical and phenotypical expressions and genes, it is a hit/miss affair... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insect Direct Posted September 6, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2010 I agree, but i dont think its that complicated with these. Proofs in the pudding i guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cricketman Posted September 6, 2010 Report Share Posted September 6, 2010 just goes to show you've done a better job than even you thought! haha! :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insect Direct Posted September 6, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2010 :lol: Yeah, has been harder to get results than I originally thought thats for sure. Its all very interesting, a few more spawns should show a clearer picture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reptilez Posted September 28, 2010 Report Share Posted September 28, 2010 what is the moss/substrate at the bottom of those frog pics? it looks cool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonnaM Posted September 28, 2010 Report Share Posted September 28, 2010 Looks like spaghnum moss... or however you spell it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insect Direct Posted September 28, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 28, 2010 yep good old NZ sphagnum moss (i had to check the spelling ) can get it in dry blocks from the warehouse. seems to work well for newly morphed frogs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonnaM Posted September 28, 2010 Report Share Posted September 28, 2010 yep good old NZ sphagnum moss (i had to check the spelling ) can get it in dry blocks from the warehouse. seems to work well for newly morphed frogs. Thats it! At least I had all the letters...just around the wrong way :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Soup Posted September 30, 2010 Report Share Posted September 30, 2010 wow those are some awesome looking frogs , i was thinking if i have some money left over after my new dragon tank the old one could become a frog enclosure ...that or some kick ass fish, but these frogs are winning atm. :bounce: what kind of frog is this? :oops: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insect Direct Posted September 30, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 30, 2010 Albino golden bell frogs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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