Adrienne Posted December 23, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 23, 2009 I have now added 2 spotted bn as well I wanted more but there were no more in the shop :evil: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-town... Posted December 24, 2009 Report Share Posted December 24, 2009 apparently they got them directly from germany? how would they do this without going through maf? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatBrat Posted December 24, 2009 Report Share Posted December 24, 2009 Nice looking plec's! They would still have to go through the quarantine and all the MAF checks, they would have sourced them from a supplier in Germany tho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-town... Posted December 24, 2009 Report Share Posted December 24, 2009 Nice looking plec's! They would still have to go through the quarantine and all the MAF checks, they would have sourced them from a supplier in Germany tho. Interesting 8) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabbit Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 Panaque Maccus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrienne Posted December 31, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 Panaque Maccus. Seems to be the majority opinion as to what these are. The later two I purchased were not as clearly marked as the first three. After a few days in the tank the markings seem to be more defined but as this stage unless I catch them by surprise coming into the room I still can't see them. However the spotted bn have way more clearly defined spots now than they did. I just need to locate another 3-4 of them :roll: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix44 Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 the spotted bn's are very easy to obtain. im getting another 6 this coming week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrazyGeoff Posted January 4, 2010 Report Share Posted January 4, 2010 Pretty peckoltia vs. Panaque Maccus This particular Pretty peckoltia is Panaque Maccus L104, L162, LDA22 Prior to the 11th special edition of Datz L-Numbers the L104 and L162 were thought of as a different fish, and that they were Peckoltia sp. Specifically in the 1995 Aqualog they are clearly labeled this way. In the 11th special edition of Datz L-Numbers (2004) They have become Panaqolus sp, but still different fish (L104 vs. L162 that is). Panaqolus was the term used for smaller / dwarf Panaque, but this classification was dropped in late 2003 early 2004 in favour of Panaque. In the 2008 publication "Back to nature guide to L-Catfishes by Ingo Seidel" L104 has been dropped altogether in favour of L162. So; as these fish came out of Germany, I would suspect that the literature used for identification pre dated the 2004 Datz publication hence Peckolita. In March 2009 these were also imported into NZ as L134 Leopard Frog (as mr pleco indicated), but with a Leopard Frog price so $40.00 for these ones is a great buy. Note that at the same time they were showing up in Sweeden also labeled as L134, so that would indicate that it was an exporter that got it wrong that time. I am not sure that I would call these fish mislabeled, given the evolution of their identification throughout the literature. Cheers Geoff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingart Posted January 4, 2010 Report Share Posted January 4, 2010 you've got to love research and clarification Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrienne Posted January 4, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2010 I'm happy to wait until they get bigger and see what they turn out like One of them has already grown quite a bit and its markings are clearer than the others heres a pic taken a couple of days ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabbit Posted January 4, 2010 Report Share Posted January 4, 2010 L104 is not gone entirely it is just no longer considered P. Maccus, L104 is to be considered as the so called common Bristlenose a mix where the original catch locations where never recorded and species looking so similar where bred for tthe aquarium trade. Im not sure what the original "Pretty pekoltia" was but i would imagin it to be the same as what oz call's "clown pleco" L168, L52, L104, & P. Maccus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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