September 6, 200818 yr comment_261400 OK I know i have tried this before but i guess it is worth trying again, I have a large female L102 and would really like to know if anyone knows of a male as i would really like to see this fish paired up. I know there are not many in the country and it would be a shame to lose such a nice hypan especially with the availability of plecs in general in NZ Any help would be appreciated, cheers Report
September 16, 200818 yr comment_262861 love to help ya ilah but neva seen another one like yrs maybe a pic would help some of those that dont know what they look like Report
September 16, 200818 yr Author comment_262943 Yeah i have had this fish for about 3 or 4 years now and only heard of one other, which sucks If someone could post a pic up for me i have a few photos i could email them, thanks very much guys Report
September 17, 200818 yr comment_262994 dont think you can inport them any more. Think maf took them off the lists. Very nice fish though. Report
September 17, 200818 yr comment_263005 Keep hold and ilah, she's got abit of time up her sleeve, hopefully another one that were around 3-4 yrs ago might show up. Rcon - are you there?- pretty sure he had a couple he swapped for some L270's about 3 yrs ago. Hopefully you find one, otherwise the breeding back option might come into play. Report
September 17, 200818 yr comment_263007 Hopefully you find one, otherwise the breeding back option might come into play. Back with what? Report
September 17, 200818 yr comment_263015 L066 would be my bet. right size, and shape. my L136 are good for markings burt only get 1/2 that size Not the best solution but there are a few threads on PC that touch on the subject. Selective breeding back focussing on L102 traits, they were talking needing 4 generations to achieve this. Report
September 21, 200818 yr Author comment_263629 Thanks for posting that dixon If i could find a male, even if it takes a while, it would save a whole lot of trouble with the breeding back option but i guess i will just have to see what happens. L066 ya reckon firenzenz, the F1's could look very strange/cool haha Report
September 21, 200818 yr comment_263633 dont thin its a good idea cross breeding... However I may be able to source you a male in about 6 months if your keen to waite. Report
September 21, 200818 yr comment_263639 I agree The breeding back option is a 10 yr minumum project, and A last resource to conserve a species here. because no male becomes available. I hope predictions of readily available Hypans in the future bear fruit, it would suit me fine. Ilah- yeah I'd be looking at L066 mainly because they seem more similar in bodyshape to L102 than others but more research could suggest another. L270, and L333 all here in numbers now and L260 with males. Report
September 21, 200818 yr comment_263643 Since you've been waiting so long looking for a male surely it would make sense to start the breeding back process just incase something happens to your female before you find a male? I'd keep looking for a male L102, but in the meantime breed her to whatever L# the experts say, just so that if something happens to her we dont lose the species completely As soon as a male was found then the breeding back could be given up if you got pure offspring Just my opinion Report
September 21, 200818 yr comment_263651 Im sure it wouldnt be too hard getting a Male L066 if you do have to breed back. http://www.fnzas.org.nz/fishroom/1-vt33104.html?start=0 Report
September 22, 200818 yr Author comment_263942 Kinda sad coz i think the hypans are some of the best plecs available because they dont get too big and you atleast have a fair shot if you try to breed them compared to many other fancy plecs I'm not too keen on the whole breeding back thing coz the plecs produced would never be pure and i dont see the point just to keep the 'species' available in New Zealand (this is probably a whole new thread on its own). Seeming as it has been this long I might aswell keep waiting Report
March 8, 200917 yr comment_294410 I was told that organism in Ch-Ch had one recently. I dont know if they still have it but it may be worth a phone call. Report
March 8, 200917 yr comment_294514 the ones in at the monent are lda33 not what hes looking for Report
March 8, 200917 yr Author comment_294525 Yeah thats all i keep finding, the LDA33's, cheers for the info guys, just hoping one will come in again oneday with the 'snowball' shipment Report
March 10, 200917 yr comment_294858 they are not band by maf yet as the goldfish bowl in Hamilton just got two in last week. they sold in like the first day however but he could prob get some more in. expensive guys tho... how large is your one because the ones in the store were not very small... perhaps 12cm+. obviously not breeding size I guess Report
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