Heir Posted April 2, 2008 Report Share Posted April 2, 2008 Ohk I caught like 200 of these in the pond behind my house... Theres MILLIONS of them in there. they are grey and look like guppies. I put some of the larger ones in my tank to get a better idea of what they were. These are illegal but my goldfish LOVE eating the little ones so I presume since they're being destroyed by my fish that I can catch them for live food. My question is can I give these to my friends or anyone else that wants live feeders? They're an unwanted organism so I don't see why not. :bounce: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caryl Posted April 2, 2008 Report Share Posted April 2, 2008 They aren't on the biosecurity list of pests and diseases. DOC says about them here; http://www.doc.govt.nz/templates/page.aspx?id=33409 and their legal definition is "unwanted organism" but I can't see where you are fined for having them or distributing but I thought it was illegal. They will jump on you if you try to sell them on Trademe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenriswolf Posted April 2, 2008 Report Share Posted April 2, 2008 I take it the picture of nuts was a mistake Caryl? :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VinsonMassif Posted April 2, 2008 Report Share Posted April 2, 2008 Go The Acorn's I guess they are the last line of defense to save the human population against the dreaded mosquito. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heir Posted April 2, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 2, 2008 ohh i dont want to sell them but if anyone wants live feeders for free let me know. My danios, white clouds and paradise fish all have a go at the baby ones too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon1990 Posted April 2, 2008 Report Share Posted April 2, 2008 .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keri Anne Posted April 2, 2008 Report Share Posted April 2, 2008 DO NOT SHIP THEM!!! Not all of NZ is infected, but if we ship them around it will be. These little guys destroy their environment. They attack native fish and eat their eyes. These guys are little nasties. Lets not make it worse! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon1990 Posted April 2, 2008 Report Share Posted April 2, 2008 I had asked in a a pm for them to ship a couple to me for live axolotl food, i wouldnt release them but still, I have changed the PM. so none wll be coming down this way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keri Anne Posted April 2, 2008 Report Share Posted April 2, 2008 This is from: http://www.doc.govt.nz/templates/page.aspx?id=33409 What damage do they do? Gambusia populations quickly expand to outnumber other species. They attack native fish by nipping at their fins and eyes and prey on their eggs. Whitebait and mudfish species are especially vulnerable to Gambusia as they inhabit similar habitats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keri Anne Posted April 2, 2008 Report Share Posted April 2, 2008 Sorry for the caps, I saw you were in Chch and Gasmbusia are not believed to be in the south island at this stage. Seems smart to keep it that was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon1990 Posted April 2, 2008 Report Share Posted April 2, 2008 THats fine, Makes sense, Leopardfish are in a few rivers in north island too, but they breed much slower. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caryl Posted April 2, 2008 Report Share Posted April 2, 2008 Oops, pardon my nuts :lol: Didn't check my cut and paste job :roll: I replaced it with what I meant to paste originally then realised it is the same as Keri-Anne's further down as well. One of those days :-? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keri Anne Posted April 2, 2008 Report Share Posted April 2, 2008 All good Caryl. If you're looking for a fuller for the AW that may be a useful pest profile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OAB Posted April 2, 2008 Report Share Posted April 2, 2008 More Mozzyfish info here, also Leopardfish from its start in a water trough near Whangarei. http://www.niwa.cri.nz/rc/freshwater/fi ... squitofish http://www.niwa.cri.nz/rc/freshwater/fi ... ther#caudo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgeous Posted April 2, 2008 Report Share Posted April 2, 2008 a water trough near Whangarei Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heir Posted April 2, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 2, 2008 umm ohk just so we're all on the same boat I'm not shipping any, as I realise this is not such a great idea. they should make it legal to catch and freeze them for fish food then someone could set up some commercial thing and the numbers would drop. you can get worms and all sorts frozen but not little fish, as I'm sure some of the species people keep in aquaria would benefit from frozen whole lil fish. just a thought like the few others that float around my head I'm certainly going to continue using them as live food for variety in my fishes diet though, now that they've got the taste for them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firenzenz Posted April 2, 2008 Report Share Posted April 2, 2008 Whats the possibility of chucking some comets in your outside pond. I was under the impression that it's the transportation rather than the keeping that gets you into trouble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heir Posted April 2, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 2, 2008 because its not really MY pond... its surrounded by huge gardens and the like almost the whole of my suburb have use to it and i could get in HUGE trouble for introducing goldfish! lol not that you knew this of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stella Posted April 2, 2008 Report Share Posted April 2, 2008 They are a noxious pest, simply having them is illegal. Distributing them is even more illegal... The thing is they spread so easily. Imagine a flood coming through, washing them into a waterway (including via stormwater) and spreading them to yet another area. They are really nasty little fish. The idea of putting some comets in there to clear them out is good... but they may destroy the comets first... just be sure, do a bit of research and get rid of the 'ORRIBLE LITTLE BLIGHTERS! Other fish also make good live food but are not invading our streams and killing our native fish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stella Posted April 2, 2008 Report Share Posted April 2, 2008 addition: I THINK it may be legal to use them as fish food if you KILL them on site. Take a bucket of icewater and put them in that immediately (or throw them hard at the ground, but it takes a while for 200...) I would only recommend that if you confirmed it with DOC first and it was from a place they can't easily be removed from (an open waterway like a stream). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingart Posted April 2, 2008 Report Share Posted April 2, 2008 local doc office have access to an electric fishing boat should talk to them about cleaning up the pond and replacing with something else are the ponds man made and landlocked or natural and flowing to a stream system and if a stream does it flow directly to the sea sorry for the questions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heir Posted April 2, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 2, 2008 hmmm well im not too sure if theyre man made... they are the lakes in bethlehem heights? they have a stream flowing into them and an storm water drain thing at the other end so they arnt landlocked. no idea where it flows to but theres millions of them in there which still comes back to why cant they be frozen - which kills them and used to feed fish ? surely then there would be a market for them and their numbers would decline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingart Posted April 2, 2008 Report Share Posted April 2, 2008 good idea heir but you would need to do a lot of paperwork to get consent to do it bit like guys trying to get a lisence to commercially fish for koi in the waikato Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heir Posted April 2, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 2, 2008 you can buy frozen koi as bait... its pretty good snapper seem to like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingart Posted April 2, 2008 Report Share Posted April 2, 2008 they had to jump through hoops to catch and sell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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