henward Posted February 22, 2008 Report Share Posted February 22, 2008 i wanna know is there any product , reasonable price that would boost amonia feeding bacteria to hasten my cycling and establishing my filter? i got these little vial, calls bio digest, apparently it helps but its more for nitrite. i need something ot really really boost the first bacteria that eats ammonia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supasi Posted February 22, 2008 Report Share Posted February 22, 2008 there is this great roduct and even better cos its free. you can get it anywhere.................Its called TIME! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayci Posted February 22, 2008 Report Share Posted February 22, 2008 umm, ammonia ?? Buy some from the supermarket and dose the tank to 4ppm. I think that is right. Try goggleing fishless cycle or something. I have not tried it myself. Normally I just get filter media from another tank and clean the media in the new tank. Right or wrong, that's what I do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henward Posted February 22, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2008 yeah ok just impatient i guess i have never had problems cycling tanks, i swap medi around etc but emergency called for me to set up a tank and immediately put fish in it. its a hardy one so it will be ok but im going away in a month, so im scared it wont be sorted by then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naz_Nomad Posted February 22, 2008 Report Share Posted February 22, 2008 Hey Henward, The products you are thinking of are called Cycle and TLC. I recommend the TLC one personally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henward Posted February 22, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2008 well heres my situation got one tank, with a jardinii - its got amnia, he jardinii doesnt even notice its, they are hardy fish, te amonia differs from .5 to 1. if i change the water it goes down straight away, but goes up in 2 days to 1. should i leave it for now and let it cycle? or intervene? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael.qian Posted February 23, 2008 Report Share Posted February 23, 2008 I'll try to do something, personally I wouldn't leave such an expensive fish in a tank with ammonia. Maybe put it in another tank for now? Or swap some cycled media over, or use more media. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caryl Posted February 23, 2008 Report Share Posted February 23, 2008 The people who use ammonia to start the bacteria do so with no fish in the tank. They also use pure ammonia, not the stuff in the supermarket which has additives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ianab Posted February 23, 2008 Report Share Posted February 23, 2008 well heres my situation got one tank, with a jardinii - its got amnia, he jardinii doesnt even notice its, they are hardy fish, te amonia differs from .5 to 1. if i change the water it goes down straight away, but goes up in 2 days to 1. should i leave it for now and let it cycle? or intervene? Can you swap a little bit of media with another filter? Even a handfull of beads swapped over can be a big help. I keep a little spare internal power filter in one of my tanks, that way it's ready to go to at least get some working filtration into any new tank, or if one has to be stripped down and restarted for some reason. Cheers Ian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DutchKiwiCowboy2 Posted February 23, 2008 Report Share Posted February 23, 2008 What about using some water from a cycled tank? would that help? I am still fairly new at this and this was one of the things I was wondering about in case I ever end up in this situation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stella Posted February 23, 2008 Report Share Posted February 23, 2008 Didn't people use vodka for that? I know people here have used vodka for increasing the good bacterial load.... The alcohol is a very accessible food for the good bacteria or something. Doesn't affect anything else. I can't remember the dosage, possibly dose until the tank looks blurry! :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henward Posted February 24, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2008 i have never heard of vodka before. yeah, ill probably jsut swap a tray or wait for it to cycle the ammonia has dropped anyways, over a day, after putting the fx5 on, i love those monsters! i mean the sheer power of pumping and filtering is amazing! 1ppm amonia and less than 48 hours later is less than half ... with a little feeding so i guess its cycling now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vindy500 Posted February 24, 2008 Report Share Posted February 24, 2008 Didn't people use vodka for that? I know people here have used vodka for increasing the good bacterial load.... The alcohol is a very accessible food for the good bacteria or something. Doesn't affect anything else. I can't remember the dosage, possibly dose until the tank looks blurry! :lol: *thinks back to weird law thread* isnt it illegal to get a fish drunk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VinsonMassif Posted February 24, 2008 Report Share Posted February 24, 2008 Just a thought, but is there anyway to steal a little bit of established media (or a bunch) from all your other filters, to fill up the new filter. Then replace the taken media with uncycled (whatever you use: noodles?) in your existing tanks? Then the impact will be nominal because you spread it out over all your tanks..... Just a thought Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henward Posted February 24, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2008 i was gonna do that but if i took away from my other tank, which has more bio loading then i would impact that too so instead just gun it out on the hardier fish wiht less load but it sstarting to cycle itself now amoni dropped by half in 1.5 days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted February 24, 2008 Report Share Posted February 24, 2008 You have to be careful using vodka (ethanol) because it can feed all the bacteria and cause a bacterial bloom as well as encouraging good bacteria. I just use time and a bit of media from another filter if available. I have a number of bare tanks with no filter and the fish are OK because I do frequent water changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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