bulldogod Posted July 1, 2007 Report Share Posted July 1, 2007 what sort of sand do you use for them? and rocks? I guess you can use any rocks, like shitz that ya use in fish tanks? I know they sell all differant sorts of sand now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
repto Posted July 2, 2007 Report Share Posted July 2, 2007 have shied away from sand and use that grey flecked astro turf stuff,dosen`t look too bad and really easy to roll up and take outside and shake out,usually dry so not hard to do.Have seen tanks with sand and the proper reptile stuff is quite dear,also have heard of little ones picking up small stones etc and getting blocked up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingart Posted July 2, 2007 Report Share Posted July 2, 2007 Good one Repto I too use astro turf, easy to keep clean, have 2 pieces the same size. let crap dry and vacumn up and hose down when too dirty. get edges hemmed or melt with lighter to stop little fibres escaping. extra piece under food dish means catch ffod from dish can put heat pad down, then sand then astro turf you dont have to worry about them ingesting substrate accidentally if you fix sides stops bugs from disappearing too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldogod Posted July 2, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2007 were do I buy it from???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingart Posted July 2, 2007 Report Share Posted July 2, 2007 landscape supplies, warehouse, mitre 10 etc try to get the softer one, shop around a bit, prices vary Repto might have other options Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
repto Posted July 3, 2007 Report Share Posted July 3, 2007 you have it covered,saw the greyish flecked one at the Hastings warehouse the other day,some only seem to have the green? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldogod Posted July 3, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2007 so its just that artificial grass stuff????? Do you guys think its to risky to use sand for young ones???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
repto Posted July 3, 2007 Report Share Posted July 3, 2007 at $500 each my answer is.......yes!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingart Posted July 3, 2007 Report Share Posted July 3, 2007 sand and bark are hard to digest why take the chance if you can limit it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gannet Posted July 5, 2007 Report Share Posted July 5, 2007 went into a usa petshop beardeds $50 and then 20%off that DAM green iguanas 19.89. red iguanas 89.89. must be off will post more another day. love u guys. tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caryl Posted July 5, 2007 Report Share Posted July 5, 2007 I think some people here will want to throttle you when you return gannet :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldogod Posted July 5, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2007 I thought it was ok for them to digest sand, helps with food digestion, same as crocodiles swallow rocks and stones to break up there food???????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingart Posted July 5, 2007 Report Share Posted July 5, 2007 your call depends on the dragon, can compact in the gut and cause blockages sometimes, especially if temperature is down a bit and gut has slowed down, they dont digest sand or bark and have to pass it through the system smaller dragon, smaller gut. small particles have a greater effect than in an adult in the wild they do eat the odd foreign matter, but in the wild mortality of juveniles is really high lizards constantly test their environment by licking substrate rocks etc sticky foods or a partially squashed insect can have large amounts of sand adhering to them Once saw a large saltwater crocodile suffer badly then die, after autopsy discovered 15 kgs of stones and a handbag in its gut as repto said at 5 hundy better to be safe than sorry, but that is your call Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
repto Posted July 5, 2007 Report Share Posted July 5, 2007 sounds pretty good from Live art.Mine have no problem with the digestion of huge quantities of live food and various vegetable matter and no sand at all?Probably would be a good thing for their muscular development but still they won`t be getting any from me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldogod Posted July 8, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 8, 2007 better to be safe than sorry ,i guess, what about tiles, anyone tried this, been reading overseas site and they all seem tolike tiles??????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingart Posted July 8, 2007 Report Share Posted July 8, 2007 tiles would be good heat pad underneath would maintain temp so long as they didn't get too hot how do they get on cleaning them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broms2 Posted July 8, 2007 Report Share Posted July 8, 2007 I know some of you guys keep quite a few dragons and i'm sure its easier with turf etc but once the dragons are old enough isn't it better to get as close to natural as possible, I can't think of anything better than a large realistic looking enclosure for reptles/amphilpians that comes as close to the real thing as possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David R Posted July 8, 2007 Report Share Posted July 8, 2007 I know some of you guys keep quite a few dragons and i'm sure its easier with turf etc but once the dragons are old enough isn't it better to get as close to natural as possible, Agreed. However AFAIK a large portion of beardies natural habitat consists of rock and hard compacted dirt/sand, not loose sand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingart Posted July 8, 2007 Report Share Posted July 8, 2007 go the whole hog and put them outside with the bromeliads Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broms2 Posted July 8, 2007 Report Share Posted July 8, 2007 beardies outside? I thought you had your tortoise in there, awesome enclosure though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingart Posted July 8, 2007 Report Share Posted July 8, 2007 beardies blue tongues and water dragons summer bach at the beach haven't installed the deckchairs and cocktails with those funny little umbrellas yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broms2 Posted July 8, 2007 Report Share Posted July 8, 2007 are beardies ok outside in summer? what months, now your giving me new ideas, oh dear new outside enclosures! :bounce: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingart Posted July 8, 2007 Report Share Posted July 8, 2007 heat pads under sand and that unnatural astro turf, need to keep pads dry as possible have clearlite on back and roof and roll up clear plastic fronts mesh floor under sand in case they burrow, they dig well could try solar panel on roof and alkythene pipe under sand for heating as well go outside in oct back in about march or april, when they slow down eating lets you know when to move them you could do indoor / outdoor off conservatory or house or shed the back garden is your oyster, no disrespect to any shellfish on this forum intended Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldogod Posted July 9, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2007 cool, outdoor enclosure, here was me thinking about a humble, modified rabbit hutch for summer. Cleaning tiles just with wet wipes or something similar and when they are older using sand then or that reptile sand, expensive tho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingart Posted July 9, 2007 Report Share Posted July 9, 2007 sand and rock from landscape supplies, dont get what they call sharp sand can sieve sand for cleaning have galvanised chicken mesh down then weedmatting over that then substrate square mesh over tanalised frame Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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