Loopy Posted June 22, 2007 Report Share Posted June 22, 2007 Ok i suddenly realised that i am thread-jacking so i shall start this thread about the little weirdos i bought as "glass kuhlis" I am not convinced that they are kuhlis at all as they don't have kuhlis type fins or barbels. They appear to be more like an eel. do they look familiar to anyone? See here for previous posts. http://www.fnzas.org.nz/fishroom/7-vt18 ... l?start=90 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zev Posted June 22, 2007 Report Share Posted June 22, 2007 Sorry Loopy, don't know what they are, but they look very interesting.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.PROPHECY Posted June 22, 2007 Report Share Posted June 22, 2007 saw them to ay and had a good look at them an they totaly look like baby eels lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coelacanth Posted June 22, 2007 Report Share Posted June 22, 2007 I havn't seen them in the flesh yet but from the photo they do look very like baby eels. If they are, and they were imported from overseas, then there might be some problems from MaF... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gatito Posted June 22, 2007 Report Share Posted June 22, 2007 Dunno what they are, but they look awesome!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loopy Posted June 22, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2007 What puzzles me is that i was told when i bought them that they were just ordered as "glass kuhlis". I would have thought that you couldn't order it in if it didn't have a scientific name to identify it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coelacanth Posted June 22, 2007 Report Share Posted June 22, 2007 if they are eels, they're probably gonna get pretty big... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loopy Posted June 22, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2007 I strongly suspect these guys are "afromastacembelus ophidium" I had a squizz in my axelrod atlas and that is the closest i can find. Nothing useful on the net by that name though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afrikan Posted June 22, 2007 Report Share Posted June 22, 2007 Alot of fish that come in with scientific names are often mislabelled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markoshark Posted June 22, 2007 Report Share Posted June 22, 2007 http://www.aqualandpetsplus.com/Oddball,%20Loaches.htm Take a look @ the ones about 2/5ths of the way down the page Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loopy Posted June 22, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2007 yeah but what about fish that come in with no label? Axelrod book says they only grow to about 10cm which is what my guys measure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afrikan Posted June 22, 2007 Report Share Posted June 22, 2007 yeah but what about fish that come in with no label? That happens.. I was told that all that come in must have a Sci name but have found from suppliers that the odd thing that arrives comes with a simple plain old common name :roll: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loopy Posted June 22, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2007 Cool link markoshark But i didn't see anything that looked like my guys. Little weirdos have no fins! They just look like noodles! :lol: Well not that i can see! As it is i have been gawking at them with a magnifying glass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon1990 Posted June 22, 2007 Report Share Posted June 22, 2007 i just got three aswell theyare awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caryl Posted June 22, 2007 Report Share Posted June 22, 2007 So are you sure you haven't been sold noodles? :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loopy Posted June 22, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2007 pretty darn expensive noodle! Had to have a chuckle to myself and a At the store the standard usual kuhli loach was more expensive than the finless wonders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted June 22, 2007 Report Share Posted June 22, 2007 Imported fish have to be identified by the latin name but may have a common name on the price list. They could also be misidentified as the Maf inspectors wouldn't now one end from the other generally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilson Posted June 22, 2007 Report Share Posted June 22, 2007 i was going to get some yesterday but i think they would get lost in my tank :oops: what are yours in ? Thread Moved Here From Freshwater: Mod Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loopy Posted June 22, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2007 I actually have them in a little tank. about 30cm x 15 x 15cm. And that tank is floating in one of my 2ft tanks to keep them warm. and i gave them a bit of sand to hide in. (seems like a requirement for them) They remind me of whiptails in that you can shove them round a bit and they won't dart away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
me love fishy Posted June 22, 2007 Report Share Posted June 22, 2007 I think they are kind of cute though, do they hide all the time or are they out and about alot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon1990 Posted June 22, 2007 Report Share Posted June 22, 2007 I put some in my community tank and they dissapeared under the gravel staight away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coelacanth Posted June 22, 2007 Report Share Posted June 22, 2007 Ok guys, I managed to get into Organism after work, and they are without doubt eels (as in true eels, Anguilla sp). True eels go through several life stages, first being the marine leptocephalus, then glass eel when returning to freshwater, then elvers (like very miniature adults), then they just grow from there. The ones currently being sold as "glass kuhlis" are at the glass eel stage. They will start colouring up soon. I didn't have a magnifying glass but could just (barely) make out a fin protruding past the actual tail tip. In eels the dorsal, caudal and anal fin are combined to make one long fin, but in glass eels the fin and body are almost indistinguishable so it is VERY hard to see. The first bulge in the body, as seen in the photos, is the gill arch. These ones are not NZ eels, and are likely to be an Asian Anguilla species. There is no way MaF would knowingly allow the import of Anguilla eels because of the risk that would pose to our native eels, both in terms of them as a species and in terms of our eel fisheries. They are therefore "illegal", and I would suggest people do not buy them. For those that do have them, glass eels are very easily reared on brine shrimp, bloodworms, etc. They are certainly not loaches, and neither are they Afromastacembelus as suggested (all mastacembelids have pointed noses even as tiny babies).There is a very slim chance they could be synbranchids (swamp eels) but it is unlikely; I haven't seen baby synbranchids so I don't know their fin structure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaNs Posted June 22, 2007 Report Share Posted June 22, 2007 I still want one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coelacanth Posted June 22, 2007 Report Share Posted June 22, 2007 get a native one instead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaNs Posted June 22, 2007 Report Share Posted June 22, 2007 get a native one instead I would but my native tank is not ready and i dont know where to get a short finned eel from. I think it would be better to either destroy these Anguilla eels or get some one to look after them that knows what the really are and that if released could have serious implications. What did the shop say now that they have been identified? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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