hi there

i am looking at setting up a bath outside in a garden for some cold water fish... does anyone have any ideas?

ie do i need a filter since its outside or are water charges enough?

are there any fish that can go outside besides gold fish and can black moors go outside?

cheers

WCMM can go outside, and leopard fish too i beleive?

ie do i need a filter since its outside or are watre charges enough?

IMO filter is optional really, typically the fish loads in ponds id very low, and plant growth very high, due to the sun. I don't even do water changes in my pond, the rain takes care of that. In the hight of summer I might put the hose in for a while to top up the water and change a bit but thats all.

If however you want cystal clear water and not many plants you might want to look at a UV filter and pond filter.

I had 4 goldfish in a bath (left over from using them to cycle my African tank) and recently removed 50 fry from said bath

No filter, no feeding them or anything. Quite a bit of oxygen weed in there and very green water.

You can put a lot of barbs outside over summer. I bred rosy barbs in a paddling pool. Guppies will also cope outside in summer.

Leopardfish will go outside but I find them not so good as they are hard to see.

thanks i really value everybodys comments and suggestions, if anyone else has any experiences please let me know

I've heard that Swordtails are alright outside in the warmer months, never tried it myself though.

completely unintentionally, I left about 4 sword fry in a tank with about 10cm of water, gravel, no heater, no plants and no food :oops: and when I got round to cleaning it about 10 days later they all threw me evil looks, complained about the cold and were generally unappreciative about the fact. But STILL ALIVE

I apologised profusely and moved them to be with their brothers and sisters. :lol:

That was in a tank by the backdoor in the middle of winter. So, who knows, swords may be okay outside in the summer :-?

Hi. In Auckland I have happily had comets, shubunkins, White cloud Mountain Minnows, Danios and inanga all live outside. on yeah, Gold Barbs too. Sword Tails couldn't handle winter sadly.

my in-laws have a pond with goldfish, all he does is put the hose in when its too green to see them anymore to flush it

are there any fish that can go outside besides gold fish and can black moors go outside?

cheers

Black moors are a type of goldfish so yes, other fish i've kept out side are all types of WCMM, inangas and paradise fish. put a lily in their and u shouldn't need any type of filter or do any water maintenance just the occasional topping up of water during the dry summer days

i have 6 WCMM outside in a bath. had to set up a new tank so had no space for their little one any more. moved them out 3 days ago and they're doing fine. though i caught 1 of my cats going fishing this afternoon :roll:

im amazed by the amount of species you can put outside! if following this trend, it should be possible to keep

• ticto barbs aka cherry barbs
  Buenos aires tetras
  Pearl Danio
  and as mentioned before the rosy barb, we have a metallic strain in the uk that would look fantastic in a pond
  

unfortunately i cant try these fish myself as i live in the north of england where its a wee bit cold most of the time and no good for these fish.

do you have orfe, weather loach, tench or barbel out there?

also ive heard that Aphyosemion gardneri killifish are ok in cooler water but not sure if they would stand the cold as im not sure how low its gets where you are?