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oh, and sps can bleach if they dont get enough water movement (cant flush away wastes and can also get 'burnt') some "real" evidence... http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/2003/Sep/01/ln/ln08a.html hence one reason we need a large water turnover... and a chiller an extremely interesting excerpt from this is:

if you hate sps that bad fay and wanna sell ya streams fay, just let me know :lol:

nice!

Lighting not as important then. I could have had a deposit on another house :-?

Cracker... Let the games begin SPS require a vast amount of ever changing currents - ok sure, more so than total turnover but this is the easiest way to calculate how much you need (without getting into specific placement of powerheads) As I say, from what I have read this is at least 20 times the tank turnover per hour. Why the need for high water velocity you ask? Predominantely to rid the coral of it's own wastes (which is true with any coral) Another key requirement for needing high water turnover (and high current) depends on the amount of SPS corals you keep. Large "heads" of acropora will significantly reduce the water flow about half way through a colony. This means the larger the (turbulent) movement of water the more chance it can satisfy SPS's current needs. IMO, even with most reef tanks we aren't even coming close to the water movements we see in nature! A small quote I found from a reef web site: RnB... Dude, I have the pump but have not hooked it up yet (awaiting an Oceans Motions 4-way from the States) But, I must say I am very impressed. How can you be impressed when you haven't seen it working yet you ask? Simple, the design of the pump is solid with quality parts - very much the same look & feel as an Iwaki. The thing weighs almost 15 pounds!!! It's like looking over a Ferrari motor versus Toyota motor, you know quality when you see it

one halide per 2 foot. 3-4' tank with serious sps get 250W double ended or 400W bulbs. most seem to be moving away from 10k's (yellow) to 14-20k's (more blue/white). 150W will probably be fine for that size (depending on tank depth), but easier to buy better now than find you need to upgrade later.

cracker, do you have enough current needed for sps? whats your tank turnover rate at? Once im finished mine will be: Sump return = 3,500lph (1 x Iwaki 55RLT) Closed loops = 13,500lph (1 x Dolphin Ampmaster 3000) Powerheads = 24,000lph (2 x 6100 Tunze streams) Total tank turnover = 41,000lph Main tank volume = 540 litres Turnover rate = 76 x main tank volume per hour Heaps of current on the expensive!! I believe SPS does best at 20 x tank turnover or higher. Go the (big and ugly) streams

you never know when the odd banana boat is smuggling some hard core drugs into new zealand,... perhaps throw them a fiver and have your corals transported too :lol:

i could make a BIG list, but to sum it up,... anything sps ...or whatever?!

that is one beautiful acro, but even as AJL says himself, pictures can be deceiving. eg: why does the picture look yellow, murky, without contrast nd hardly in focus in the first pic yet the second pic the water is clear and in focus? the evidence maybe clear that zeoxxx works, however i dont think the photo's are enough proof and are too biased towards the after shot. perhaps someone has some better shots? or perhaps zeoxxx also fixes out of focus photography? 8)

if and when i have anything big enough to frag, you're more than welcome to take a piece! nothing like trading frags to save some dollars

most definately jss, im getting new bulbs next week. i'll position the acro's in a final position shortly then take the same shot from the same angle every 5 days. will also do water tests at the same time.

...and TWO x Korallin C10001 calcium reactors!!!

Personally, I dont take these photo's as evidence that Zeoxxx works, simply because of what appears "new" lighting in the after shots. Im not disputing whether Zeoxxx works or not, just the fact that the before photo's are taken with what appears very poor lighting. Perhaps the new bulbs you've added increased coral growth and colour? Perhaps it is just that the photo's are bad? Still not convincing enough for me.

when hell freezes over? :lol:

:lol: this is just getting funnier by the day!!! no he cant, my dad could. well my dad has a bigger faster car than your dad just because its bigger doesnt mean its faster no it isnt, im telling my mummy on you

i'll have a couple of eheim 1060's available for sale in about a months time if you're keen on upgrading

dunno if anyones seen it or not but i found it to be an interesting site: http://www.wildreef.com/

my tang would rather starve to death than eat hair algae,... and that went for my rabbitfish too and they are generally more likely to eat it! it really sux, to get rid of it i have to eat it myself

half a (whole?) shrimp every 2 days sounds like a bit. i feed my fish (and tang) flake every one or two days, half sheet or nori once a week and cube of frozen brine shrimp about twice a week. my tang is about 120mm long - a real beautiful blue. what size is your tank?

perhaps jbl never did enough R&D and it actually does work in saltwater? cracker can be our guinea pig

mine eats anything, LOVES brine shrimp and nori.

simple really, you get what you pay for. as someone posted earlier on this thread (pies i think?), spend a little more now and get a good quality filter that will go the distance

The only way to achieve "valid" results is to leave everything else as is. The fact that cracker removed about 10km's of plastic chain from his sump may have contributed to his reducing nitrates not saying that Clearmec plus does not work, it possibly just doesnt work as quick as we are seeing

oh, and while im at it more pic's!!!