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so I can roughly half the water movement?... RXLT15 and 1 Tunze? I might add a single powerhead from my main tank once the closed loops go in, ta.

should i have any water movement in my refugium? bearing in mind that its about 300 litres and the only water movement is water down into it from the main tank then overflow to the sump. i've heard that there should be minimal water movement, but should there be ANY at all for my size fuge?

cool, i might test on sunday see if its any different!

http://www.chimera.co.nz/other/

a few good tips here http://www.petsforum.com/personal/trevor-jones/collectingseawater.html

thats a cool site RnB. how bizzare, i tested taka once and it was 1.025 spot on (about 6 months ago) would it or could it change that much in 6 months? jetski, can i test my refractometer against yours incase mines screwed?

http://www.petsforum.com/personal/trevor-jones/backup_power.html

quit winding him up, as you say, its time to drop it

over what period of time did you drop your salinity? 2 days that much! ouch, not recommended. best to drop over a few weeks.

a bit like this? join the club. just deleted a post coz i didnt want to start up another big 'issue' about something so trivial.

you were definately wrong dude, not interested in going down THAT path again!!! thanks for the apology.

Can anybody read or comprehend text on this site??? "not a competition, just as a general interest thing" comprende? its only a bloody hobby.

not a competition, just as a general interest thing. i will start up a new thread and post when the time comes...!

I assume you're doing before and after with Zeovit? If so cool, will post mine before and after without Zeovit Of course, Zeovit is not the only difference between our tanks so not exactly a strong test case but interesting to see nonetheless.

agreed, in that I should have outlined my reasons rather than just 'waste of time' but I still stick to my point. you dont need to be experienced in something to know or offer advice about it. if this were the case, man would not be where we are today. is that not just saying what i said in your own words? i based my opinion on what Duke has in his tank VERSUS the cost of zeovit. IMO, it would be like spending money on something that has minimal potential. anyway, not interested in debating further, otherwise we will end up like layton vs ajl and wasp

previous page, dukes post.

Duke posted what he was planning to do with the tank he has, subject "soft tank & Zeovit should I?" Does this not make it an open thread for discussion? My point again: IMO I dont believe the extra cost of $30 per month on Zeovit will make a significant improvement on a predominantely soft coral tank. Quite simple really. You dont read into things very well do you Pies. Re-read and have a think about what I said - perhaps there was some sarcasm here too Not me, Brendan. To me his reply was sarcasm - perhaps, perhaps not, but thats how I took it. Did I say it didnt? Or are you just making a statement? Sorry, I meant soft corals, not lps. How about I quote you Pies from a zeovit thread sometime ago "The Zeovit is expensive as it is" on http://www.fnzas.org.nz/fishroom/viewtopic.php?t=2411&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=15 Whats your justification for calling Zeovit expensive? Perhaps its cheap to rich people and expensive to poor people? You really can be critical about the most pathetic things. Im not interested in jumping into a bull$#!t conversation about how the hell you measure "worth" vs "money" but if you're going to get THAT pedantic... How come you have not justified yourself here Pies? Perhaps you should join us all in elaborating on why you think Zeovit is "a waste of time" in Dukes tank? Much what a few of us have said already... Brendan - as you have gathered, it wasnt a dig at you or the product you sell, I simply believe it will not do ENOUGH benefit in Dukes tank. In different tanks, sure highly likely. Duke - give it a try and show us before and after pics/water parameters and lets see what the $30 a month gives you (no sarcasm intended)

pies, that was sarcasm. I was NOT bagging brendan and I was NOT bagging the product he sells. perhaps i should have initially stated my reasons for saying 'waste of time'. i will rephrase - i am saying that it is highly unlikely to make a SIGNIFICANT improvement on a LPS tank WHEN you take into account the COST of the product each month. In other words, why spend the extra money when the gain will not be significant? Next people will be saying Zeovit is like a protein skimmer - it is a "must have" for a reef tank. A slight bit of marketing crap if you ask me . Search around, there are plenty of softie tanks that dont use Zeovit that are just awesome. If Duke said he had a fully SPS loaded tank then I would have had a differing opinion (from what I have read and from the feedback that people have had FROM using it, it is mostly positive)

Dont need to use it to know about it, i believe there is a 26 page post about zeovit somewhere prior? Did i say it was not a good product? no. did i say it would be a waste on Duke's tank? yes. i'ev heard and read that zeovit is good for all systems, sps and lps, but really brendan, if you werent selling it you wouldnt push it. extra cost really for what? lps with good skimming is all you need,... IMO.

waste of time, use a carbon filter.

it appears you are both so set in your ways, neither will admit they are wrong. its perhaps not even a matter of being wrong or right, just two opposing opinions about a product that appears to have no defining "scientific evidence" on it. Am I right to say that zeovit is all based around theory than hard core scientific proof?

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