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i had the same situation go on at roughly the same age caught one holding the other under the water, didn't know how long they had been there but the one on the bottom was dead they were in a 5 foot enclosure at the time

at least you can still count the barring in black and white

have you been able to see the culprit it can take a long time watching the tank to observe the total dynamics

for those that are interested a lot of articles can be found here from greater chicago cichlid association http://www.gcca.net/publications.htm

google is my friend i remember Koenig discovering them so googled that yes phoenix in my collection of fishy bits are some papers written by scientists who have studied the diversity of fish species in the african lakes i can remmder bits of them when prompted sometimes i have probably forgotten more than i remember :oops:

a write up by Ad Koenig on the discovery of the dems scroll down http://www.gcca.net/pdfs/Chatter-Mar-99.pdf i also see some of the early photos of them shows fish with different numbers of barring

if you keep them seperate you maybe able to "fix" the strains

in the main entrance area dragon is an old dungeons and dragons one trumpetgear gave me, it likes beef will throw a mix of male guppies in there so you can see the colours in scale they will be "Jaws"

short video of the pond layout

i too have had them together in a community tank, no problems

judging by frogtrucks profile i wouldn't worry about what they said on your auction as i think they might like a stir i think a better quality of photo would be good to make a better judgement the african cichlids are hard because of the great variety found in the lakes personally i only breed in seperate breeding tanks with fish i am positive on as to identity being honest when describing and selling your fish is all you can really do

as i understand it return pipe, returns water back to the tank from sump via a pump overflow pipe takes water from tank to sump water returned to tank then usually flows ot ouf tank through an overflow box/weir via a hole in tank or a syphon setup as described if no hole available

level with i think you could make with irrigation fittings to see how it works

just don't call me late for breakfast

nice fish sicklid and good pics

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i believe the first one will cut off when tank level drops and not restart as suphew outlined but i believe the second should start back up again as it will hold enough water in tube for gravity to restart flow i have used a straight syphon overflow for awhile now that works but is susceptible to micro bubble buildup

silver sebrights? tail is a bit wrong on the rooster though so i could be wrong prrobably silver hamburgs then

would this restart?

you could try a couple of stacks of rock and open space between for some variety just make sure they are stable maybe a cave as well

i could be wrong but i think supasi was breeding some with luck he will see this

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welcome back leroy