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i suppose one could assume they are asking a high price to ensure they go to a good home but then the ability to pay for something doesn't mean the ability to look after it is there as well

lifes lessons are not cheap sometimes

not a myth when you have a fair idea of animals sold and price they were sold at easy to make an estimation

at the time the only paperwork for iguanas was in containment at Napier that permit was only found by maf by accident yes the frogs were here previously, it was the origin of those particular frogs that was in question

do you mean the whites tree frog case?

the record keeping of permits for importation of reptiles pre 1995 is basically non existent this has created the grey area thats too hard for maf to deal with so basically now it is guilty until you prove innocence or that the reptile was in private hands in nz pre 1995

toppom may have some glass to repair it with

you don't need to look at it

it is the original subject of Whites tree frogs and the court proceedings associated with that, more importantly the judges findings, that is important to the keeping of reptiles generally and the involvement of Maf with that

statements designd to get a reaction... well, i wont make them anymore. acanthurus, you can make them - i certainly wont dignify your existence and provocation with a reply into specifics another one you say you won'r make them then in the same sentence make one :roll:

highlighted words that are emotive and will probably prevent

sorry to say acanthurus but that is the sort of post that starts the whole ball rolling again and could be considered posting to get a reaction

i will argue a case to have discussions on legalities of keeping exotics in nz put back on the forum but it will need to be kept on topic

some people can't forget the personl issues while we let personalities come into it the exotic reptile hobby will stay fragmented we might say we are for the hobby but actions speak differently

Henward Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 9:57 am no direct rebuttal to what was posted until Acanthurus Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 11:35 am once it was realised by mod team there were contradictions the thread was removed last post Fri Sep 17, 2010 1:40 pm next thread started Fri Sep 17, 2010 5:30 pm in that topic both henward and varanophile requested it be replaced mod team needed to discuss replacement that takes time we then spent a bit of time trying to edit and sanitise posts from the 2 protagonists there was enough there under the sites rules to have issued warnings then banned both sides then would have come the accusations of over moderation :roll:

if you consider henwards comments slander then perhaps you should keep a copy then you will be able to have that determined legally when those comments were posted it was not known they were slander V. acanthurus then quoted from the judges ruling and the rest is history

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would be good to have a open discussion thought you guys could act like adults and have an intelligent discussion gave the topic a lot of leeway but it degenerated again :roll:

they will eat bbs and small crabs or fish they are good little stingers

Red Beadlet anenome

it was a post intended to create a reaction any more and it might be hammer time

keep to the legal facts of this case please

Thats it guys, just tit for tat stuff now pity i liked the discussion on the legal aspects of it