mr pleco

cant say i have seen any either

hey KP heard someone that crossed longfin BN with normal GBA and got all BN not sure weather these are longfin or not funnily enough my goldens have come frm longfin BN to longfin BN so i think these longfin BN have actualll been crossed before like this longfin GBA * BN = longfin BN one of my pair must be carrying the recessive gene back to the longfin GBA \ so i wonder if trying to cross them back brings the dominant shortfin with the dominant BN resulting in normal BN ??

hmm wonders if charlie fits the "approved home " list

sweet now who was buying me them again??? oh yeah and save at least 20 for charlie

hey adodge can vouch for them being the same as normal bristlenose even got some gold ones just have to wait and see if they turn out longfin or normal love the bristles on yrs KP

thats looking like a great list there adodge keep up the good work i feel breeding them for you is just around the corner

i like em adodge but then i love all plecs hopefully you can breed em as i find local bred have better colouring and may help with correct iding them later on funy thing is they look alot like the "so called " but never were "leopard frog plecs that came in a awhile ago but dont get excited they arent even close but still a lovely plec crickey you guys keep this up and ill have to get a better collection myself starting to get a little envious here

there are two types of spotted BN in store one is as KP described a Rio Ucayali the other is locally bred starlights L number yet to be defined the third plec is a (forgive my spelling ) a niteveus plec and yep he is in there a very nice specimen too was going to get correct spelling and Lnumber but PC seems to have locked up maybe someone else knows its proper L number and correct spelling

as far as i know owen yep they do ,same as the starlights my starlight females have small bristles round the lips ,,, at this size and age i would say females should show no bristles but i could be wrong

yep it is

from $30 jammos

possible i still have some females left pm me if interested and ill have a closer look

my F1s have just spawned creating F2s so if you bought a colony they should be about ready to do the same given the right conditions and providing i supplied you witha pair :oops:

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yep wouldnt we all love to have a go 8) they are not yr easiest plec to breed but do-able ,. hard to find any of these anywhere in the country or at least anyone who wants to part with them but it dosent hurt to try .. good luck

yep at this stage have to agree good find as these havent been imported for some time

If you ever wondered how yr BN do it watch this

ok heres photo of female http://www.planetcatfish.com/catelog/im ... us+sp(l270)&image_id=5644 and not the same species but you are looking for this if its male http://www.planetcatfish.com/catelog/im ... e_id=10239 notice hairs down lower part of body ... def male all else fails put in caves males WILL cave /females wont HTH mr pleco

hey guys ,and the debate rages , i agree on pure starins and where we can ,need to stay true to the cause BUT and a big BUt ,if it means its the only way we can breed them in the aquarium and they become a rare quatity then it is somewhat acceptable to save them by this means . On that note dont know if you all realised but the L018 and L081 come form exactly the same regions of water maybe the L081 is a just a variation of the L18. if you look at adult L18s the spots are similar to a L081 and so the debate rages i cant say for certain that they are two different species or not and nor can planetcatfish as photos are reliant on the ppl that take em , maybe the photo of the adult L18 is in fact a L081 . anyway on the positive i would assertain by head shape the first two pipcs of an L018 is definetly male and the last two pics look VERY good of being female i think the guy that told you they had bred before had one too many wiskeys before typing but hey for you kiwi i hope i am wrong then YOU would be a legend but the pesimist in me agrees with what ilah said before . HTH mr pleco and good luck ...

yep

man didnt know i was even getting picked up just shows you how good looking i must be i get picked up by complete strangers :lol: as for yr actual pleco looks like he has injured himself and that is an infection /growth on the side of his mouth probably wont kill him but it wont be a goo dthing either see if you can aquire some of those indian almond leaves i saw on here just before as they have antiseptic qualities ideal for this kind of thing it will turn yr water brown but should help heal him aswell

good buying 8)

mostl likely furan

GBAs get red behind the head in males when they come into spawning unknown why just what they do also happens with starlights as for the nose it could be a bit of rubbing as adults dont really get this and maybe the young just rubbing their nose end as they feed do keep an eye on it why i ask for temp, is heat will bring blood vessels to the surface and being so small may have been a factor other reasons may be parasitic but cant see any other signs to reflect that watch for swollen tummies or pale colouring as this then is parastitic ..watch nitrate levels in the tank and make sure airation is good (o2 levels ) dosent look anything to worry about at this stage and cant say i have seen it before best to keep an eye on it to make sure it dosent develop any further and by the sounds of it it comes and goes with location /mood /and stress . if in doubt ...do a water change . 8)

excellent news