evilknieval69

:lol: Yea... Nah.... Could, but i dont realy like to have tanks that low. makes it too hard to siphon them out etc... Possibly

Well this is the stand. First pic is without the ply, second with the ply (no way :roll: ) Just gotta let it fully dry now and then it will go into the room and all stations will be go. I want to get some sort of black fabric to put around it so you cant see into it but for the meantime ive just painted it all black. May even put some ends on it and some doors and make it a nice cabinet if i can be stuffed :lol:

:lol: haha yea true.......

Had a look underneath the house today.... Piles are directly below the tank location! Yeeha! Now i have absolute peace of mind! Been working on the stand aswell.... A sheet of ply was gunna be $130 odd (not what i expected!) so i opted for a cheaper way out.... I had a piece of 21mm ply here anyway, but its only 1240mm long (tank is 1300) so i drilled 3 holes in each end of the stand, and bolted two 35mm wide pieces of timber onto the side of it (one each end) flush with the piece of ply. I also screwed a front piece on to make it look nicer (front wont hold tank, just for decoration) Bogged the holes, cracks etc up, sanded it back, painted with some house paint, sanded back a little bit from that and then finished it with flat black spraypaint. It looks SWEEEEET. I also sprayed the rest of the metal on the stand so it looks nicer than what it did.... Ill get some pics shortly

:-? I dunno

The air stone coming on each night will do fine

Ohk sweet as its a no then. Quite fine with me cos i can plant that one out instead :lol: Im contemplating selling them, but im not sure yet.

I have 2 Uarus in with my firemouths, bichir etc and they will all be transferred into a much bigger tank very soon, but i would really like to have plants in the bigger tank (and we all know uaru arent fond of plants!) Anyway, the only other tank i have that is possibly big enough for them is a 3 footer... 90 l x 45 w x 40 h. Would this be suitable for two Uaru or should i not even try?

There ya go then. Do a water change now and keep doing them regularly otherwise your fish will die!

Looking good man!

Would be sweet for a pair yea

Well your killies get a much better diet then mine :oops: I feed mine flake everyday, and bloodworm and cichlid tucker :lol: every now and again. They also get live bloodworm and mozzie larvae when its in season.. I need to get some daphnia when it gets hotter

If you look at the video you will see about how big they are when they spit http://www.cichlid-forum.com/videos/stripping.php

ohk sweet as, so yours is similiar to mine, just a tad lighter I think it will be sweet.

I will probably get 20mm Duncan, how many litres is your tank? your house is wooden floors isnt it?

Im just getting more and more confused! will it be sweet if i put it there or not? Im getting an 8 x 4 sheet of ply tomorrow so may aswell use some of it to put under the stand, even if it hardly helps, its peace (piece?) of mind, and will cut another piece for under the tank, that will stick out 30mm on each end. Hopefully can get the tank sorted and filled on the weekend! I think that it will be fine where it is, because if you think about it, even if it is only on two joists, its going to be an absolute max of 250kgs per joist at any time (500kg max for whole setup i think) ,3 solid guys standing on a single joist within a 500mm space( at least 250 kg between them), the joist is not going to move. I have done a bit of building using joists, beams and piles (i built our 4 x 4m deck) and when you think about it they are pretty strong, and our house ones are rimu i think so thats even better.... I will still get under the house tomorrow if possible (dunno if theres an entrance anymore :lol: ) and see where the nearest piles are etc.

Fish! But seriously, not alot of plants will survive in a coldwater, un-lighted tank, but java fern and java moss would be your best bets to start with

Nah the wall its gunna be on is only 1300 long, exactly the same length as the tank, so i cant move it either way. I might get under the house this weekend and see exactly where the closest piles are too it, and see it i need to put any more in which i could do it need be.

Just had bit of a look where im gunna put the tank, but couldnt lift the carpet to have a look at the position of the joists or anything so i measured the length between the joists in the hallway (which has no carpet) , and then measured through the door into my room, marking each joist on the carpet. Ive found that the stand will be sitting on 2 joists, narrowly missing one at each end also. I need to buy a sheet of ply for the top of the stand so may aswell cut out another piece to put under the stand if you think it will make a difference.... I also had a read through some old posts and found this where spidersweb is saying that 460L is nothing and wont harm the floor at all (mine is smaller than that anywho)

This is my total out of proportion pic of the stand. What im trying to ask is, will a stand like this be sweet holding 450 odd kg, on an old wooden floor, not by a load bearing wall.....

Yea crap description. I will draw a pic

The stand i want to use is only 1240mm long, whereas the tank is exactly 1300mm long. Will it matter if i get a piece of plywood the same length as the tank, and have it sticking out 30mm on each end of the stand? Otherwise my only other option is to use my other stand which is 1400mm long and have the stand stick out 50mm on each end from the tank which will look real bad, and is too big for where i want to put it anywho.... ALSO, Just thinking about where im going to put the tank in my room.... I have two options... Move things around and put it on the floor beside an exterior wall (load bearing) which is possible but it would be in a pretty dumb place. Or, i could put it against another wall which is not load bearing... It will weigh 400-450kg once you include the stand, gravel etc with the water volume, so will not be light. Old wooden house, rimu floor boards, wooden piles... Will it take the tank sweet? The stand im gunna use is an angle iron frame, with the centre piece running front to back in the middle aswell, so theres the ends, sides, and the middle piece on the floor. will this spread the weight enough for it to not go through the floor or should i stick it on the load bearing wall?

Looking sweet man! why the heater at the front though? lol. And nah i dont reckon you need anymore rock, too much rock and the tank just looks like a wall of rock... Better to have fish swimming room and coral growing room!

Got any to sell me Mark? Got a 3 footer that will be empty soon

Lol. As you can sorta see, the 3 footer they are in ATM is overgrown with floating indian fern and they wont eat it!!! They do however enjoy java moss, but i was thinking that if i could keep the java moss stocks up and let them eat that, then they might leave some big swords alone... But i doubt it :lol: