:oops: Crikey...ive just remembered :oops: i was out windsurfing a few days ago 'before the rain' and i had to have a whiz.....it was blowing nigh on 30 knots, and i seem to recall i was facing into the wind at the critical point. some may have missed the target :-? (a trusty lion red can lashed to the mast)... this could explain alot, not the least being the ammonia result.