Show us your leos!!

[dragonz1833]

http://www.leopardgeckowiki.com/index.php?title=Normal

normal eg what is getting sold

and hi yellow

http://www.leopardgeckowiki.com/index.p ... igh_Yellow

that is not getting sold

[dragonz1833]

brighter yellow is now considered hi yellow not dull like this

http://www.trademe.co.nz/pets-animals/r ... 094375.htm

u can tell that is going to have abit of spots and the yellow is not bright

[dragonz1833]

also what i have been told dont quote me on this is reason for undark bands is lower temps

[Rabbit]

Your referencing a wiki that anyone can alter? the photos i have provided are from John Mack and Ron Tremper.

Your one on trade me currently (Mucky05) has heaps of black how can you say it is going to end up being a hi yellow when the colour fades? Not to mention its being sold as a male simply because you incubated it for one.

[Rabbit]

also what i have been told dont quote me on this is reason for undark bands is lower temps

From what i have read of tremper is lower temp increases colour http://www.leopardgecko.com/effects-on-temperature

[dragonz1833]

Some are not aware that temperature actually plays a significant role in the brightness of a leopard geckos colors. It has been shown that geckos incubated at lower temperatures will be darker than those incubated at higher temperatures. This offers breeders the ability to determine the intensity of the colors of their offspring.

Since geckos incubated at lower temperatures are typically darker compared to their counterparts incubated at higher temperatures, it goes to reason that males are typically brighter than females. This has changed over the years however as the knowledge of temperature effects on color has made its rounds.

so lower temps means less colour = darker so not as bright i have played with hot females cool females everything in between

[dragonz1833]

http://www.herpcenter.com/leopard-gecko ... ation.html

is the source by the way

[alanmin4304]

Two questions:

1 What is the use of darker colours if it is only temporary and they all end up the same?

2 Have you in your incubation temperatures produced super females and who bought them thinking they would breed from them?

The fading of the black bands occurs naturally as they mature to adult patterns.

[young leos]

he says how he gets pretty color girls about 4:30 mins in

[reuben.a]

i guess it all comes down to personal preference. i can name hundreds of good things about dragonz leos but then i can also say the same about alans. both are different but both still sit under the same category as a "high yellow". no need to argue about it i reckon as they are all stunning and a lot of hard work has clearly gone in to both. at the end of the day, dont buy it if its not what your after :thup:

[reuben.a]

what do you guys think of this as a diy incubator? looks pretty simple, and by the looks of it would work well too?

[alanmin4304]

You can use any sort of insulated container that is big enough for what you want to incubate. You need a source of heat and an accurate thermometer and thermostat. The hysteresis need to be about 0.5 degrees which means you need a fairly accurate thermostat. If you use an old fridge or similar you may need a fan to even out the heat a bit. One for males and one for females is good as well. I have two, each with 0.5 deg hysteresis and an electronic thermometer accurate to 0.1 deg C. One has a fan but I don't use it.

[reptilez]

What thermostats do you use? Would these work

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing ... =660885409

[reuben.a]

okay cool, ive got one of those reptaprobe thermostats, how are they? i have it on the leo tank and i hear it click on and off quite often. seems to keep the temp pretty constant

[alanmin4304]

I think both would be suitable for using on enclosures but the hysteresis is one degree on each. By the time you get a bit of lag each side you could have temperature variations of 3-4 degrees and this could be a problem particularly when incubating for males. You may find that the cost of buying a purpose made one would be about the same as an accurate thermostat. I had a couple that got munted in the quakes that I used on aquaria and they were about $340 each. They could be set to a hystersis of 0.1 deg C.

[reuben.a]

crap haha

[reptilez]

So incubators like Hovabators are more accurate?

[aotealotl]

would that one work as well ?

[dragonz1833]

i use the herp nursary 2 will have some spareones for sale butmy friend had a set back and wont be here for another month

[Exotic Aquatics]

let me guess a hi yellow :lar:

If your talking ta me dargonz it doesn't worry me what morph my leos are at the end of the day its still a leo and its mine not yours so dont worry about it!!

[alanmin4304]

The one I have is accurate to about 0.5 deg C but is electronic and I think the hovabator use bellows so I don't know about them. I used one for hatching turtles for a few years and it worked for that and I know people use them for reptiles.

[alanmin4304]

I read somewhere that higher temperatures increase the black colouration. Can't remember where.

[aotealotl]

would that one work as well ?

I guess that answers my own question

Measure range: -40°C~+120°C

Slew range of temperature: 1°C-30°C

Resolution: 0.1°C

Accuracy: ±1°C (-50°C~70°C)

Power supply: 220V AC, 50/60Hz

Power consumption: less than 3W

Relay contact capacity: Cool(10A/250VAC);Heat(10A/250VAC)

Data retention: Yes

[dragonz1833]

i find lower temps increase black ,higher temps increase yellow might be diff for other ppl though

[alanmin4304]

I use them on some of my enclosures and the minimum hysteresis is 1deg C and the overall fluctuation getting on to 3 degrees.