KrazyGeoff Posted January 19, 2013 Report Share Posted January 19, 2013 I was just wondering if there are any catfish enthusiast's left after the recession? Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix44 Posted January 19, 2013 Report Share Posted January 19, 2013 Still around... collection has shrunk after 2011/12 though :tears: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David R Posted January 19, 2013 Report Share Posted January 19, 2013 I've still got my "stamp collection" crammed into my 400L tank, and working on the tank to house them all. Been meaning to try take some pics but life tends to get in the way. How are some of your stripy little ones going Geoff?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camtang Posted January 19, 2013 Report Share Posted January 19, 2013 My collection has been expanding over the last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim r Posted January 19, 2013 Report Share Posted January 19, 2013 I still have mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarletmonuka Posted January 19, 2013 Report Share Posted January 19, 2013 i don't actually have any but i am a big fan.. will start with a pictus in the near future Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David R Posted January 19, 2013 Report Share Posted January 19, 2013 Just updated the Pleco Collections thread with my change of stock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrazyGeoff Posted January 20, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2013 How are some of your stripy little ones going Geoff?? Swimmingly well, thanks David, albeit a tad frustrating. P44, you are a bit quiet these days? I often wonder on the viability of catfish in the NZ hobby, specifically the fancy plec’s. Is it the price? Is it some kind of natural cycle? Is it the post recession thing? What do you folks think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redracer77 Posted January 20, 2013 Report Share Posted January 20, 2013 I still have most of mine, hoping to expand later this year when I get a larger tank. Availability and price in Nelson is a problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David R Posted January 20, 2013 Report Share Posted January 20, 2013 I think things like this are always cyclical, but there will always be dedicated enthusiasts who will follow regardless. The lack of new species coming in probably plays a part in the downturn in interest, as possibly does the 'secret squirrel' attitude of many keepers, it's hard to get a scene or buzz going about something when no one wants to talk about what they're keeping. African cichlids were the big thing for quite a while, now it seems like planted tanks and nano tanks (and planted nano tanks) are the current flavour of the month. Maybe predators will be back in vogue next, then it will be the turn of fancy plecs again... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabbit Posted January 20, 2013 Report Share Posted January 20, 2013 Just lost enthusiasm....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camtang Posted January 20, 2013 Report Share Posted January 20, 2013 Availability and price in Nelson is a problem. Absolutly 100% agree. before I joined this forum there was a heap of plecos that I wanted but I never saw them in the lfs so I never got any, but now that I am on here nearly all of my dreams have come true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Navarre Posted January 20, 2013 Report Share Posted January 20, 2013 Well with only 70 tanks going atm its just a matter of so few tanks so little money and so many fish how are the biger strippy ones going ? hmmm I need to update my posts after seeing Davids but atm have L066, royal whips red whips gba red eye gba calicos and a very nice ancistrus pair that came in a temenaki spotted and have lovely tiny red gold spots so nothing really special of course some one once said I am an accountant who is a fly fisherman who collects plecs...of course I have patience.....so just waiting and watching navarre Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrazyGeoff Posted January 21, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2013 how are the biger strippy ones going ? Hi Nav, Good to hear you are still going strong, although 70 tanks is almost showing off :bggrn: The big strippy ones are still a challenge. I think the male has a better income than me, as he seems to be on a perpetual date, with the alpha female. Perhaps he needs to shell out for some quality bubbles or something??? Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshlikesfish Posted January 21, 2013 Report Share Posted January 21, 2013 My peckoltia brevis spawned but my clown loach colony proved an effective contraception. Peckoltiva vittata came in awhile back and I thought "wow awesome something new" but they were meh. There just isn't anything interesting anymore (in my opinion) and I know the suppliers don't want to bring in my plecs as they don't really sell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Navarre Posted January 21, 2013 Report Share Posted January 21, 2013 Meh Once its in the blood...... Most are empty atm need more fun tokens before looking at anything else Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilah Posted January 21, 2013 Report Share Posted January 21, 2013 I still keep catfish :thup: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrazyGeoff Posted January 22, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2013 Absolutly 100% agree. before I joined this forum there was a heap of plecos that I wanted but I never saw them in the lfs so I never got any, but now that I am on here nearly all of my dreams have come true OK, the price thing is of interest to me. What sort of price is fair? Lets say each of the breeding stock costs $200, and you can't sex them so you need to get a few, say 5 (for a round number). You keep them for 2 or 3 years to grow them to adults, and then you at least know if you have a pair. Then you gotta try and breed them, and lets say that takes another 6 months. You need another tank to seperate the extra males too though. So now they bred, and say you get 20 babies, and you loose say 40% Now you need to keep them for about 6 months before they can be sold. So what is a fair price? (one answer is "whatever someone will pay for them", but thats not the kind of answer I am enquiring about) Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godly3vil Posted January 22, 2013 Report Share Posted January 22, 2013 In that situation I would charge around $50 each for the offspring, that should cover all expenses from breeding them. It won't recover the initial cost of all 5 but at least you are on your way and anyway since you have a breeding pair the next few batches will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camtang Posted January 22, 2013 Report Share Posted January 22, 2013 I think that all depends on the fish, I am very opposed too paying $240 for a L142 or $180 for a L081/L018 when they are around 30-40mm, they are nice fish but that seems ridiculs especialy when HFF advertised a L081/L018 for $100 last week. So including shipping it would be cheaper to get a pleco sent down this way instead of driving into town and buying one. I love the fact that finaly we are getting some fancy plecos in town, but I think because they know there is only 4 shops and 3 others dont/wont stock them they have marcket monopoly and will charge what they like. As for plecs to breed If I buy a group for around the $200ish mark and I do get them to breed to start with I would be looking at swaping the off spring with others that have plecos that I dont currently own, then depending on the fish around the $30-40mark is fair. If breeding for a bussiness then charging more to cover cost's is fine, but if your only breeding for a hobbie, then just making some extra coin to buy more fish works for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redracer77 Posted January 22, 2013 Report Share Posted January 22, 2013 I think that all depends on the fish, I am very opposed too paying $240 for a L142 The L142 I have seen locally is over $300, Hence my comment about price. I'm happy to part with my money for quality fish but there is a limit of what I will spend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camtang Posted January 22, 2013 Report Share Posted January 22, 2013 Maybe we are talking about the same fish and I got the price wrong, as I have only seen one around town recently and it was ridiculusly over priced Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redracer77 Posted January 22, 2013 Report Share Posted January 22, 2013 Yep probably the same 1, price went up on it for some reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camtang Posted January 22, 2013 Report Share Posted January 22, 2013 good logic. "we arnt selling it at this price, lets make it more. it makes it more valuable this way" :facepalm: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.Eagle Posted January 22, 2013 Report Share Posted January 22, 2013 i was on the hunt for a clown pleco, found one out richmond, i may be wrong here but they wanted like $80-$90!! pass!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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