henward Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 http://www.google.co.nz/search?hl=en&q=plastic+bio+media&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=4358l5704l0l5772l17l9l0l0l0l0l441l1783l2-4.1.1l6l0&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&biw=1366&bih=599&wrapid=tlif132823165553810&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=7TQrT9aRHZGImQWsh4XYDw primarily used for moving bed filtration which is apparently very effective and efficient Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcon021 Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 Yea this is very popular in Europe. I am keen to buy some. Also changes colour as more bacteria grows or dies on it :thup: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henward Posted February 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 so where do we get them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 I asked the same question recently http://www.fnzas.org.nz/fishroom/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=56934 The essentials of what you need is some type of robust material that is buoyant, and has cavities that allow bacteria and other organisms to grow in a protected environment. These small aquatic organisms are able to do consume tiny material that other filters miss. And there's the outside of the media where bacteria also reside, and these are being constantly renewed by the collisions that occur in the fluidising process. The Kaldnes media can be purchased in Singapore in 50L quantities, and I think on ebay they sell clones made in China. Now Lego floats .. so anyone game to try a Lego fluidized filter? Lego pieces might be too big though, and too expensive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ally07 Posted February 4, 2012 Report Share Posted February 4, 2012 Aqua One sells packets of black star-shaped bio-media which float and are porous. I used them for my moving media compartment when I used to have it in my sump. They float and spin really quickly when propelled by the pump, so there's a lot of movement and collision. Downside is that they are really, really expensive if you want to get a good amount of media in the compartment. I'm sure that the blue bio-balls will work just as well. I used to have them as moving media as well, they float and spin really well. Much cheaper to buy in bulk too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henward Posted February 4, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2012 yeah, i just reconfigured my sump and all bio balls are in one chamber, they float and do spin wtih a pump. i now have a moving media chambeR:D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwiplymouth Posted February 4, 2012 Report Share Posted February 4, 2012 I have seen polystyrene bean bag filler used as floating filter media in a commercial aquaponics set up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ally07 Posted February 6, 2012 Report Share Posted February 6, 2012 I have seen polystyrene bean bag filler used as floating filter media in a commercial aquaponics set up. Personally I wouldn't use those because they are so smooth, so they don't have as much surface area as a porous material. Also, due to their size, I think that complications will arise with the pump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zayne Posted February 6, 2012 Report Share Posted February 6, 2012 from whit i can tell they work just fine, use an air stone and bottle, they seem to have a large surface area Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ally07 Posted February 6, 2012 Report Share Posted February 6, 2012 from whit i can tell they work just fine, use an air stone and bottle, they seem to have a large surface area Yeah, air stone and a bottle will be better for polystyrene balls. Wouldn't work for Henward because he's using a compartment in his sump tank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zayne Posted February 6, 2012 Report Share Posted February 6, 2012 Yeah, air stone and a bottle will be better for polystyrene balls. Wouldn't work for Henward because he's using a compartment in his sump tank. i have seen a video on youtube of a person using it in the sump its also not cheap! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirio Posted February 6, 2012 Report Share Posted February 6, 2012 http://www.yourfishstuff.com/content/images/supplies/bio-balls.jpg I have these Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henward Posted February 6, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2012 http://www.yourfishstuff.com/content/images/supplies/bio-balls.jpg I have these yes i have a mix of that an the black ones you get on TM and HFF. they all float, funny some of them dont float though wonder why, 1 out of ten sink haha, but with a jet moving it around, it constsnatly moves and bounces anyhow, so same effect. just trialling a chamber on my sump, eventually when my monster tank is up, im gonna use all my ceramic media into a wet/dry trickle system, and the entire sump will be turned into a high flow mechanical and moving media filter. THen a separate second stage sump will be for the rest of the bio filtration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted February 7, 2012 Report Share Posted February 7, 2012 Friend came back from Singapore last week and brought back a small bag of K1 for me to experiment with. It's about the volume of 1.5 cereal boxes. The $1 is there so that you can see the comparative size of the media. Didn't realise it was so small. Price sticker on the bag says S$19. I'm surprised he found it as I read you had to buy it in 50L quantities, but he knew of a few LFSs and rang around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#!CrunchBang Posted February 7, 2012 Report Share Posted February 7, 2012 A $1 Note hasn't been used for a very long time.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henward Posted February 8, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 Friend came back from Singapore last week and brought back a small bag of K1 for me to experiment with. It's about the volume of 1.5 cereal boxes. The $1 is there so that you can see the comparative size of the media. Didn't realise it was so small. Price sticker on the bag says S$19. I'm surprised he found it as I read you had to buy it in 50L quantities, but he knew of a few LFSs and rang around. that is exactly what i want!! where do you get that??? that is perfe;ct for moving bio filter, light and easy to move Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snookie Posted February 8, 2012 Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 Singapore ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zayne Posted February 8, 2012 Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 im talking to a supplyer atm but isnt looking cheap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted February 8, 2012 Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 Wasn't Squirt going to Singapore? Or is he there already? You can see the shop name on the price sticker. I believe there is a company in NZ that uses this stuff for their water treatment plant but I couldn't see any indication they sold the media alone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirt Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 :sage: I'm here now, I can't quite see the shop name... If you could give me some details on where it is I could check it out for you depending on location, what were doing ect. Keeping in mind that one nzd is one sgd so that Packet cost $19 unsure on how much you are needing ect. I assume this is for a sump of some sort ? Why not just get some egg crate and some normally media so the egg crate holds it up making it float? Is it called terima kasih? I googled it and couldn't find much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 The idea is to fluidize the media, just not keep it floating As the bacteria colonize the media turning it brown it then starts to sink. I googled the words on the label .. it says Terima Kasih which means "Thank you" :slfg: Ok, I'll find out from my mate where he bought the stuff from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirt Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 Cheers, so it's $20 for 50L? I might be Pushing the bag limits with three shoes boxes and clothes! But I'll see what I can do. :thup: Come to think of it he may have got it from Malaysia, because it was thank you in Malay. I'm not going back there anytime soon. Cost $2 for a bus there, we changed some money had a snack and changed our money back... Wasn't much to see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 No, it was $19 for just over a cereal box amount of the stuff. It was a multinational thank you on the label but it was definitely purchased in Sg. Better find out first if anyone wants you to get some for them ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirt Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 Maybe Zayne wants some? I check fish room daily just give me a bell if you want some. On this topic or PM me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 Mate says it was purchased from this shop: http://www.arowanaclub.com/advertisers/C328/C328.htm Clementi Florist & Aquarium Address Blk 328, Clementi Ave 2 Singapore 120328 Tel: 6777 8468 Owners: Mr & Mrs Toh Business Hour Weekdays:11:00-21:30 Saturdays: 11:00-21:30 Closed on Sundays Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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