Joshlikesfish Posted September 19, 2010 Report Share Posted September 19, 2010 I just spent every cent I have buying 4x L104 off Adrienne. I plan to spawn these guys. I own one female. Getting three confirmed females and one unknown. I'm hoping the unknown is a male, if not I'll have to get one. I was planning on either setting up a 4ftr just for them, or evicting the residents of my current 4ftr. If anybody has a better suggestion feel free to tell me :lol: The plan was a 4ftr with dark gravel, a lot of slate caves, a lot of driftwood and High flow. Once I found out the cave they spawned in, i'd position a powerhead to put a little flow into the cave to prevent the aneabrobic build up or something like that. Read about it online. I was going to use a canister with high flow and a spray bar. Sort of set up like a river tank. The breeding log i was reading use a UGF also. I've also read that I must recreate the seasons? Dry season for two months, then wet season for the spawning? What live foods are recommended? Any help appreciated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firenzenz Posted September 19, 2010 Report Share Posted September 19, 2010 I'd throw some bamboo caves in there also. I'd try flow across a couple of caves and some not. Leave flow as it, as male has chosen cave for whatever reason so leave it be IMO. give hidey holes/shelter outside the caves. Change is as much as trigger as anything else. The simple fact of the move and new tank could be that trigger so be prepared straight off as the fish look to be in great condition. Good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myfishybuisness Posted September 20, 2010 Report Share Posted September 20, 2010 also you can try oak leaves that is a natural trigger to spawn fish, i use it for my cories and my fighters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshlikesfish Posted September 20, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2010 Hopefully something works :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshlikesfish Posted September 26, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 26, 2010 As of saturday the fish are in the tank. One showed distinct colours, assumed to be a male. Have given them 3 bamboo caves. Every time I'm in the room I look in the caves to see if he's in there. Today, he's in there, head first, making fanning like motions. Looks similar to what that other plec was doing in his cave Firenzenz Now, I have to sit and wait. Lets say its a female though, is it normal for a female to go into a cave head first and make fanning motions? I so hope its eggs :bounce: :bounce: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrienne Posted September 26, 2010 Report Share Posted September 26, 2010 I so hope its eggs as well Josh. Given that they have been in a tank with heaps of other fish for at least 7 months they may relish the opportunity to be alone. Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshlikesfish Posted September 27, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2010 Unfortunately, its not eggs. Male was just checking out the cave :-? Also, they are not alone. On that note, does anybody want to buy 5 bolivian rams, 6 ember tetra and a SAE? :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwiplymouth Posted September 27, 2010 Report Share Posted September 27, 2010 Keep your other fish and don't be too disappointed if the L104 don't breed for you. They are not the easiest pleco's to get breeding. Having said that I hope you do manage it and I wish you luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matto Posted September 27, 2010 Report Share Posted September 27, 2010 good luck pics :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshlikesfish Posted September 27, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2010 I need an excuse to move them on anyway :lol: I think I can do it, it'll just take time Pics later haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingart Posted September 27, 2010 Report Share Posted September 27, 2010 i have spent a lot of time in anticipation waiting for fish and animals to breed usually i find it is when i have given up hope and forget about them that they do it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshlikesfish Posted September 27, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2010 i have spent a lot of time in anticipation waiting for fish and animals to breed usually i find it is when i have given up hope and forget about them that they do it :lol: Probably wont take me long then :lol: I don't think I have any males :-? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matto Posted September 27, 2010 Report Share Posted September 27, 2010 could you pic them up and look at their ''bits'' to see if there is a difference between fish? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshlikesfish Posted September 27, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2010 Sure. Will go try get pics now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matto Posted September 27, 2010 Report Share Posted September 27, 2010 just a suggestion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firenzenz Posted September 27, 2010 Report Share Posted September 27, 2010 Firstly I'd not be worrying at all if you had 4 females. enough around that I'm sure you'll find someone keen for a swap. If you are doing photo's ( I wouldn't bother yet)- get dorsal and ventral views so you can get good idea of body and head shape- Close up of cheek and pectoral odontodes would be handy also. Was the one fanning in the cave completely- or tail sticking out fanning-(a very male behaviour-when 'advertising') Females will go into caves but dont seem to hole up in them like males. Pretty exciting first week though all in all :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshlikesfish Posted September 27, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2010 Firstly I'd not be worrying at all if you had 4 females. enough around that I'm sure you'll find someone keen for a swap. If you are doing photo's ( I wouldn't bother yet)- get dorsal and ventral views so you can get good idea of body and head shape- Close up of cheek and pectoral odontodes would be handy also. Was the one fanning in the cave completely- or tail sticking out fanning-(a very male behaviour-when 'advertising') Females will go into caves but dont seem to hole up in them like males. Pretty exciting first week though all in all :lol: I'm not worried about 4 females, i'm worried about 5 :-? Heres my photo's. Useless and I had to catch and put in a cage :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshlikesfish Posted September 27, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2010 Was the one fanning in the cave completely- or tail sticking out fanning-(a very male behaviour-when 'advertising') Females will go into caves but dont seem to hole up in them like males. Tail sticking out fanning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix44 Posted September 27, 2010 Report Share Posted September 27, 2010 Jeepers. Send that fat one to kiwiplymouth :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshlikesfish Posted September 27, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2010 Which fat one? They're pretty much all like that :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myfishybuisness Posted September 27, 2010 Report Share Posted September 27, 2010 what are you feeding them cos they are realy fat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshlikesfish Posted September 27, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2010 Just got them off Adrienne, so not sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firenzenz Posted September 27, 2010 Report Share Posted September 27, 2010 Yeah I'd say with their 'conditioning' it would be hard to get really definitive ID from even the experts at PC. I'd not worry for a while, what will be will be and look to wean them off some of the the more protein based foods. Seem to remember on Tm diet was mix with bloodworm also. No more bloodworms or at least wean them off them and move to pleco chip/spirulina/ wood diet for nxt 2mths. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshlikesfish Posted September 27, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2010 No more blood worms for that tank then? I'll feed lots of plec chips etc? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix44 Posted September 27, 2010 Report Share Posted September 27, 2010 A wood-eating fish, the tank should be decorated with several different types of driftwood. These fish really like to have something to chew on and squash, cucumber, and other vegetables should be readily available to them (yams are a favourite) http://www.planetcatfish.com/catelog/sp ... ies_id=734 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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