maoripho3nix Posted August 26, 2010 Report Share Posted August 26, 2010 Im know Jager's are top line product and I'm sure anything better above them are steel heaters. But still.....DONT BUY CHEAP HEATERS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smidey Posted August 26, 2010 Report Share Posted August 26, 2010 the jagers have specially treated glass to prevent that happening, if you search youtube you may also find a rena being run over by a van. i would be more concerned by how they actually heat & maintain the temp of the tank, that to me is what makes a good heater & not if you can fully heat them up & drop them into a tank or be able to run over one. i personally recommend jagers for the fact they do a better job as a heater than others i have had. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Posted August 26, 2010 Report Share Posted August 26, 2010 Im know Jager's are top line product and I'm sure anything better above them are steel heaters. But still.....DONT BUY CHEAP HEATERS Most of the stainless steel heaters are lower quality. So, the housing might not break, but it is more likely to boil your fish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwiplymouth Posted August 26, 2010 Report Share Posted August 26, 2010 Most of the stainless steel heaters are lower quality. So, the housing might not break, but it is more likely to boil your fish. I was of the understanding that boiling your tank was less likely to happen with a s/s heater as they use an electronic thermostat and not a bi-metalic strip like most glass heaters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LYNDYLOO Posted August 26, 2010 Report Share Posted August 26, 2010 All I can say is Stay away from the Elite Brand of Heaters, I come home from work a couple of weeks ago, went to feed my Fish, opened the lid and thought man this is abit hot, hmmmm Tank had gone from 25-37 degress, lost 5 of my Sunshine Peacocks, COOKED Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BikBok Posted August 26, 2010 Report Share Posted August 26, 2010 I don't like the look of elite heaters anyway. Recently needed a heater and both elite and blue planet were on special. I didn't like the look of the elite but ummed and ahhed over the B.P .. got it even though I would have preferred a jager.. but the BP special was very god. Anyway , got it home, to find the glass was broken and there was no temp range on the dial.. yes I know it's inaccurate but usually there is some starting point! Took it back and got the jager I wanted in the first place. Pleased I did.,.. has kept the temp constant even on the coldest of nights in the coldest room in the house. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshlikesfish Posted August 26, 2010 Report Share Posted August 26, 2010 IDK why you would even try that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshlikesfish Posted August 26, 2010 Report Share Posted August 26, 2010 Oh and I have done that with my heater (kinda) A cheap one, knocked it and it slid out of the holder, hit the bottom of the tank and cracked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morcs Posted August 26, 2010 Report Share Posted August 26, 2010 and stay away from the fluval M series too. they seem to break if you so much as look at them. and ive heard of A LOT of them breaking, even when used in conjunction with jagers (that havent broken) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix44 Posted August 26, 2010 Report Share Posted August 26, 2010 Really? I have one in my crypt tank. Got it the day they came out. 150W no and not broken so far thankfully! Heats a 63L tank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smidey Posted August 26, 2010 Report Share Posted August 26, 2010 Really? I have one in my crypt tank. Got it the day they came out. 150W no and not broken so far thankfully! Heats a 63L tank. maybe you haven't looked at it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix44 Posted August 26, 2010 Report Share Posted August 26, 2010 :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morcs Posted August 27, 2010 Report Share Posted August 27, 2010 :lol: everytime ive ran a sump dry (siphoning a system quicker than auto top up able to fill) which has been on a few occaisions, when theres been a fluval and jager in the same sump, fluval would break everytime, jager would be sweet as. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix44 Posted August 27, 2010 Report Share Posted August 27, 2010 ah. that's because the jager has an auto shut off system. I thought the fluvals had it too, but not sure about the m series. Mine tends to stay underwater :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottie841 Posted August 27, 2010 Report Share Posted August 27, 2010 Is there any reason for the unbroken heater to not be steaming? The only thing I can think is it was either a lot colder or it was not turned on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Posted August 27, 2010 Report Share Posted August 27, 2010 Is there any reason for the unbroken heater to not be steaming? The only thing I can think is it was either a lot colder or it was not turned on The jagers are bigger, so for the same wattage it will be spread out over a larger area resulting in a lower surface temperature. Lower temperature=less stress when it's dunked into cold water. I doubt jager or the cheaper heaters use different glass, probably made of a borosilicate glass like the early Pyrex dishes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix44 Posted August 27, 2010 Report Share Posted August 27, 2010 Jagers use lab glass that is shatterproof. similar to the flame resistant test tubes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Posted August 27, 2010 Report Share Posted August 27, 2010 jagers use lab glass. similar to the flame resistant test tubes. Which are borosilicate glass, frequently pyrex branded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix44 Posted August 27, 2010 Report Share Posted August 27, 2010 Never said it wasn't.... :roll: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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