alanmin4304 Posted July 14, 2010 Report Share Posted July 14, 2010 I received this communication from the Regional Council today indicating that biosecurity have declared rainbow skinks an unwanted organism as they feel they will out compete the natives. 7 July 2010 To whom it may concern, Following a recommendation from the Department of Conservation, MAF Biosecurity New Zealand has declared rainbow skink (Lampropholis delicata) as an Unwanted Organism (UO) under the Biosecurity Act 1993, effective as of 7 July 2010. The declaration is based on the risk posed to native lizards from competition for resources with this invasive Australian skink. Following changes to the Wildlife Act schedules, which come into effect on 8 July 2010, rainbow skinks are no longer a protected species. However, the UO declaration continues the restriction on the trade of this species – it remains illegal to sell rainbow skinks in New Zealand. Furthermore, under sections 52 and 53 of the Biosecurity Act, it is illegal to knowingly communicate (move); release, or cause to be released; spread; sell, or offer for sale; exhibit; or breed rainbow skinks without the explicit permission of a Chief Technical Officer. This UO declaration will support a broader programme of work aimed at slowing or preventing the spread of rainbow skink into the South Island, where they are not known to be present. More details on this work, to be led by DOC in partnership with MAFBNZ and others, will follow in the coming months It is important to note that a UO declaration does not obligate any agency to respond or control rainbow skinks in any region. However, it does allow them access to a range of powers under the Biosecurity Act, should they wish to take action. For more information on this UO declaration for rainbow skinks or the communications programme, please contact Phil Bell (Senior Technical Support Officer (Biosecurity), Department of Conservation) at [email protected] or Erik van Eyndhoven (Principal Advisor Conservation, MAFBNZ) at [email protected]. Yours sincerely, Jeff Flavell Andrew Harrison Acting General Manager Manager Research and Development Group Pest Management Group Department of Conservation MAF Biosecurity New Zealand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herperjosh Posted July 14, 2010 Report Share Posted July 14, 2010 MAF just hates reptiles don't they. Does this mean if you find one you can keep it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted July 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 14, 2010 No Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broms2 Posted July 14, 2010 Report Share Posted July 14, 2010 gee do you think they would do as much damage as domestic cats? I would have thought they would have kept them as a protected species considering we now have protected rats! wonder how long until beardies, w/dragons, litoria frogs and leopard gecko go the same way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BikBok Posted July 14, 2010 Report Share Posted July 14, 2010 I didn't know rainbow skinks were protected in the first place! When my daughter went through her lizard stage, that was the only one I allowed her to keep as I believed we didn't have to have a DOC permit since they weren't NZ natives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reptilez Posted July 14, 2010 Report Share Posted July 14, 2010 rainbow skinks have wounderful colouring on them whin you shine it in the light. I hope ma 2 blueys wo't end up being illegal 0.o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted July 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 14, 2010 I think they already are in Auckland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reptilez Posted July 14, 2010 Report Share Posted July 14, 2010 I think they already are in Auckland. nope you are just not able to buy them in Auckland,you can buy them from say Tauronga and bring them in though. i talked to the Bio security guy about reptiles,he said he has heard of no law about this :-z Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted July 15, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2010 Ring your Regional Council. I think it is a requirement of theirs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herperjosh Posted July 15, 2010 Report Share Posted July 15, 2010 I heard there were blueys roaming around auckland on this forum but yeah heaps of people tell me you can't get them in auckland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted July 15, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2010 Pet bus will not carry them to or from Auckland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reptilez Posted July 15, 2010 Report Share Posted July 15, 2010 Pet bus will not carry them to or from Auckland. yeah,its a shame Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sneaky2 Posted July 15, 2010 Report Share Posted July 15, 2010 #@$%^%$!@#@$%^&* 8)dont start me on doc,maf,bio security again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted July 15, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2010 If there is a restriction on the keeping of plants or animals in a local area it will be a requirement of the or more than one Regional Council so give them a ring and find out what the actual story is. In the case of the rainbows this is a Maf restriction and will apply to the whole of NZ---even though they are not known to be in the South Island. As stated in their letter, it will give resources and advice to regions that may feel they have a big enough problem with them to do something about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny walker Posted July 15, 2010 Report Share Posted July 15, 2010 so if i found won would i be able to keep it? or do i need a permit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BikBok Posted July 15, 2010 Report Share Posted July 15, 2010 so if i found won would i be able to keep it? or do i need a permit? probably not allowed to keep. You'd need a permit I guess. If you ended up with a pregnant female and she laid eggs.. you could be done for breeding! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaNs Posted July 15, 2010 Report Share Posted July 15, 2010 Cant keep them at all...permit or not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herperjosh Posted July 15, 2010 Report Share Posted July 15, 2010 DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMN!!!!!!!! why do they pick on reptiles? is it because they arnt Furry and cuddly like cats and dogs. :evil: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaNs Posted July 15, 2010 Report Share Posted July 15, 2010 Once they get banned everyone wants them eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David R Posted July 15, 2010 Report Share Posted July 15, 2010 gee do you think they would do as much damage as domestic cats? I would have thought they would have kept them as a protected species considering we now have protected rats! wonder how long until beardies, w/dragons, litoria frogs and leopard gecko go the same way ^ the truth. How they can justify banning ferrets as pets outright while leaving cats free to roam is beyond me. Its easier to pick on the minorities I guess. Perhaps we need to be more vocal like other minorities to get preferential treatment? :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted July 16, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2010 It just shows the reality of life. I remember being at a health conference where a member of the then National Government had given a lecture on how proud he was that they had allowed cats into food premises. The President was a professor of public health at Massey University and proceeded to list for about 20 minutes the diseases that cats could spread to humans and then finished by saying "and they are the diseases from cats do we have time to add the diseases that they are likely to pick up from chasing mice?" It is my belief (and I will risk being excommunicated here) That there is nothing cuddly or good about native bird destroying cats that are allowed to spend all night roaming and killing. This is a natural instinct for cats to hunt and feral cats have been shown on many occasions to be very good at feeding on native fauna. Who would want to be the politician that banned cats. I also dislike stepping in what they leave behind all over our garden. If your dog roams you get into major trouble and I think it should be the same for cats. Ferets are probably not any worse than cats but are a lot easier to get at politically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herperjosh Posted July 16, 2010 Report Share Posted July 16, 2010 well i guess they have to ban the ferrets and they do alot of damage and you have to ban somthing not banning anything at all would mean to many preditors Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
repto Posted July 21, 2010 Report Share Posted July 21, 2010 its the old story of closing the stable door long after the horse has bolted? look on the bright side it will give the cats something else to chase and maybe spare the life of a native. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingart Posted July 21, 2010 Report Share Posted July 21, 2010 probably not allowed to keep. You'd need a permit I guess. If you ended up with a pregnant female and she laid eggs.. you could be done for breeding! However, the UO declaration continues the restriction on the trade of this species – it remains illegal to sell rainbow skinks in New Zealand. Furthermore, under sections 52 and 53 of the Biosecurity Act, it is illegal to knowingly communicate (move); release, or cause to be released; spread; sell, or offer for sale; exhibit; or breed rainbow skinks without the explicit permission of a Chief Technical Officer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REEVESTA Posted July 22, 2010 Report Share Posted July 22, 2010 "Furthermore, under sections 52 and 53 of the Biosecurity Act, it is illegal to knowingly communicate (move); release, or cause to be released; spread; sell, or offer for sale; exhibit; or breed rainbow skinks without the explicit permission of a Chief Technical Officer." As it says here you can not keep, breed or sell them etc.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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