What species is this fish??

[toddy203]

Hi guys,

What species is this? i have two of these,

[Moya]

Blue Acara

I think?

[Duncan7]

They are Jack dempsey cichlids (Cichlasoma octofasciatum)

[supasi]

yeah Jack Dempsey's

[toddy203]

do you think these are a hybrid? i have looked online and the pics i have seen don't show the red outline on the fins and they usually look more sparkly. how do you tell the difference between male and female? since i have two i wonder if they are compatible to breed

[Duncan7]

That is the normal colouration, the red on the dorsal is normal. Unlikely to be a hybrid. If they are male and female they will likely breed. As for sexing, males are large and have more pointed anal fins. They have little or no blue on the gill plates while females have a good deal of blue pattern. The body of a female will have less color than a male. HTH Duncan.

[Navarre]

They are not JDs

They are either acara or rivulatus ( spelling)

hard to tell sometimes between the two...sometimes

Also a variety with yellow edging to dorsal fin

HTH

Nav

[toddy203]

i just did a few image searches and im leaning towards blue acara (maybe hybrid?). But around green terror and blue acara cichlids the speckling around the mouth appears to be more lines then spots, are these fish still to develop these lines? these fish are both about 7cm long. do these fish hybridise?

[Duncan7]

Young JD's.

[David R]

Looks like a dempsey to me (which is now in the genus Rocio), the eye spot at the base of the tail and the reddish coloured fins seems a bit more defined that usual.

[herefishiefishie]

Those that said Blue Acaras, are worng.

Those that said Jack Dempsey's correct. Sell plenty of them here.

Are they a hybrid of Jack Dempsey, very hard to tell. Which I am more likely will say, they are legit.

Frenchy

[firenzenz]

Yep

Look pretty standard young JD.

Always a chance that they are BGJD as they have unfortunately been sold on the market.

[lostcupid]

definatly JD.

[toddy203]

Whats a BGJD??

[Morcs]

Definately not Aequidens Pulcher, or rivulatus.

Jack dempsey no doubt. they are generally darker, but sometimes lighten up and appear like that.

[ryanjury]

Whats a BGJD??

Blue green jack dempsey, a cross between the electric blue dempsey and the green dempsey.

[firenzenz]

Whats a BGJD??

BGJD=Blue Green Jack Dempsey

They are the young of EBJD(blue Dempsey, usually male) X regular Dempsey,( usually female).

This combo is needed to breed Blue Dempsey- EBJD X BGJD = 50% Blue Dempsey

OR

BGJD X BGJD =25% blue Dempsey.

The blue green will look very much like regular JD except can have more pronounced colours like blues/purples.

Unfortunately a few have sold their extra BGJD's which could have effect on regular JD populations as the two look the same.

[Sharkie]

jd's for me as well.

[David R]

Just while we are on this topic, when did normal JD's start being called green?? I had never heard them called green until people started breeding EBJD's, could it be that someone simply mis-heard someone saying "blue gene JDs" and came up with the name blue-green (and there for green)? Because they don't look very green to me...

:-?

[firenzenz]

Indeed a Ponderous thought 8)

I wonder how many other new terms and words including txtisms( is that new? ) have entered into our vocabulary in recent times, and how many of those are incongruous with what they are meant to describe, yet still do.

Come to think of it my iphone looks nothing like an I or an eye.

[Navarre]

a bit like how to be full of awe is now used you mean? = aweful

or stow high in transit explosive =?????

or by our lady (virgin mary ) =bloody

or watch out under=chunder

that sort of thing, you mean?