dat1 Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 Hi all, I was one to vote for farming Native birds and I think the guy down south has a valid point. Whats your thawts on this topic. We have companies breeding and farming Koura, Paua, Mussels, Oysters and Eel why not our birds? On close up Monday? evening they did a quick poll and as the results tell it was a clear 85% Yes and 15% No to farming our Native Fauna. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jennifer Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 It's a very convincing argument. Give people the financial incentive to breed these birds and there will be more of them in the country. Just as simple as that. How successful would an average farmer be at successfully raising Kiwi chicks? Who knows - and who is willing to take the risk of giving him a pair to start with? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingart Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 tried to suggest this a few years back and got shot down in flames if done poperly it will work needs to be tightly controlled or stock will be taken from the wild for a black market trade anything where humans are involved is open to exploitation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smidey Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 combine this with increased eradiation of the introduced species that threaten our native birds & i am sure there will be a great increase in native populations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David R Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 Will some of the birds be released back into the wild, or will it be like the arowana farms in asia where Scleropages formosus are bred in their millions but are still critically endangered in habitat? And on this topic... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKTsWjbjQ8E Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heir Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 We have companies breeding and farming Koura Cheers Do we? I thought they closed down because it takes Koura too long to grow to a profitable size? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingart Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 they are still operating once the first batch reach saleable size then each year it rolls on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heir Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 they are still operating once the first batch reach saleable size then each year it rolls on Yeah. Obviously lol What I read was that it takes 3 years to get them to the right size and it was costing too much in the 3 years so it wasn't worth doing.. Clearwater for example I'm sure have shut down. Anywho when I went to order some for a Restaurant when I was the Head Chef I couldn't find them and even if I could I remember them being $60 a kilo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zev Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 Most importantly - as far a Wekas are concerned - what do they taste like? One of my students who did a stint in the Chathams said they were 'an acquired taste' if not foul to eat... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heir Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 Most importantly - as far a Wekas are concerned - what do they taste like? One of my students who did a stint in the Chathams said they were 'an acquired taste' if not foul to eat... Oh I heard they tasted good apparently? My thoughts on this would be what would they be farmed for? Apart from Kereru I don't think any of our native birds taste good so who will be paying the farmers? Unless maybe they started making fashion items from feathers? lol Or bred for the pet trade. I'll never understand why you can buy Kakariki's overseas and they even come in different colour variations and here you need a permit... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert25 Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 Have you guys not heard of tree top tegals, in other words wood pidgon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heir Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 Have you guys not heard of tree top tegals, in other words wood pidgon Apart from Kereru I don't think any of our native birds taste good Same diff... Kereru is the Maori name for "tree top tegals" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingart Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 not just a food source if our birds werre bred in captivity, close ringed, DNAed then sold overseas revenue could be brought back in to sopport release to the wild and predator trapping % for release to wild % of money to registered breeders % to support conservation work making our birds and reps available overseas will help cut down the smuggling trade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heir Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 not just a food source if our birds werre bred in captivity, close ringed, DNAed then sold overseas revenue could be brought back in to sopport release to the wild and predator trapping % for release to wild % of money to registered breeders % to support conservation work making our birds and reps available overseas will help cut down the smuggling trade Available overseas as pets? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingart Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 they are available already Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N1CK Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 ninja'd by LA :oops: and they can fetch quite a price :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heir Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 they are available already Really? Like apart from Kakariki... Ohhh you can tell I need to leave the country more :roll: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingart Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heir Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 :-? Stop mocking me and answer my question lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N1CK Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 "Kubus was caught by wildlife officials at Christchurch International Airport on South Island in December, about to board an overseas flight with 44 geckos and skinks in a hand-sewn package concealed in his underwear. " "The geckos may have been worth 2000 euros ($2,800) each on the European market, he noted." that's about the guy that was caught in chch trying to smuggle native lizards, theres even an overseas forum for them somewhere :lol: he was mocking me actually lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reef13 Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 Most importantly - as far a Wekas are concerned - what do they taste like? One of my students who did a stint in the Chathams said they were 'an acquired taste' if not foul to eat... cook them right and they are dam tasty if you ask me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingart Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 kea, kaka, kakariki thsat i have seen for sale on the web i think it will be surprising what is in overseas collections http://www.answersingenesis.org/creatio ... uatara.asp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix44 Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 good idea, but genetics is a very important factor for birds in the wild, and for introducing bred birds into the wild. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingart Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 genetically recorded so you know where they go back too close ring and registered so record is straight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted February 4, 2010 Report Share Posted February 4, 2010 The lizards at the christchurch airport are now at Orana park. They were labeled with the general location they came from (such as cromwell) but there are many locations with different types in Cromwell so they can't release them. This is the same with all of them I think. It is likely they will end up in zoos or put down. By the number of trips he has made her over the last few years he is a regular Freddie Angel and they should have thrown away the key Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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