AquaVitamins Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 What a headache ! I have just introduced 6 of them into my community tank, and have discovered their fins and bodys scatters with white spots!!! ARGHH!!!! why?!?!?! So now i need to treat it... What do i use? - will it stain my silica sand?!? And do u think Animates should pay for the treatment? :-? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrienne Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 what else is in your community tank and is it planted - if so with what, oh! and ring animates and tell them. Trouble is they may have 'developed it' on the way home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N1CK Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 I don't think animates should pay for the treatment, part of the fault is your own for buying them in the first place and not QTing them. Slowly raise your water to 30, depending on what else you have in the tank (the danios might not do well with this temp) and treat with some wunder white spot cure (I think) at the dosing on the package. It will also partly help with gravel vacs and 50% waterchanges (to remove the cysts) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caryl Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 There is a reason you ought to quarantine new fish! Buy any white spot treatment. I have no idea if any stain white stuff but it does stain silicone. No the shop should not have to pay for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morcs Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 I don't think they should have to. Though if you ask nicely they could give you a bottle of white spot cure - it only costs a few bucks. you shouldnt not have a bottle at home just in case anyway But did you not look at the fish before you bought them? Not saying they arent necessarily to blame, but when im purchasing, I will watch fish for at least 5 minutes - much longer if the price is over $100, checking its behaviour etc.. - never assume that the person getting fish for you sees everything, as human beings, mistakes can be made. But in the meantime, do a 50% water change with a gravel vac and bump your temp upto 28C until you get treatment. and yes, it couldve been developed on the way home - from the stress of being netted, transported, etc.. oh and the wunder white spot cure shouldnt stain your silicone. it will make your water radioactive green for a few hours before disappating (remove carbon before using). the dosage should be 1 drop per litre. then on day 3, its one drop per 2 litres, then on day 7 do a 50% water change. If you have scaleless fish such as loaches and plecos, do half doses (it still works). Hope this helps! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AquaVitamins Posted January 17, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 I don't think they should have to. Though if you ask nicely they could give you a bottle of white spot cure - it only costs a few bucks. you shouldnt not have a bottle at home just in case anyway But did you not look at the fish before you bought them? Not saying they arent necessarily to blame, but when im purchasing, I will watch fish for at least 5 minutes - much longer if the price is over $100, checking its behaviour etc.. - never assume that the person getting fish for you sees everything, as human beings, mistakes can be made. But in the meantime, do a 50% water change with a gravel vac and bump your temp upto 28C until you get treatment. and yes, it couldve been developed on the way home - from the stress of being netted, transported, etc.. oh and the wunder white spot cure shouldnt stain your silicone. it will make your water radioactive green for a few hours before disappating (remove carbon before using). the dosage should be 1 drop per litre. then on day 3, its one drop per 2 litres, then on day 7 do a 50% water change. If you have scaleless fish such as loaches and plecos, do half doses (it still works). Hope this helps! Hey thanks. I have kuhlies so ill 1/2 it. How many w/c's should i do? Just the one? Or do one each day until i get the stuff? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AquaVitamins Posted January 17, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 what else is in your community tank and is it planted - if so with what, oh! and ring animates and tell them. Trouble is they may have 'developed it' on the way home. Its not that well planted, like a few Java ferns - hoping to get more, and mostly rocks and caves. I have 2 female fighters, 5 Kuhlis, a Goldspot pleco, 6 Panda Corys, 13 neons and the 6 danios Animates is closed now I just tried. Ill call tomo. But yea, if they wont pay for the treatment ill just pick it up from my lfs I think ur right about it developing , because the currently the white spots are very small and the dianos move so quickly that they are very hard to see. So i wouldn't have been about to see it @ the pet store Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N1CK Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 keep doing the gravel vacs and the water changes, it will help to remove all the white spot cysts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix44 Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 Return the fish? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bronze-dragon Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 Return the fish? would Animates take them back after a day? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix44 Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 I would if the other fish in store have white spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bronze-dragon Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 yea but palmy Animates is ALOT different to the Animates down here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingart Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 the amount of time you give your new fish to adjust to their new water conditions can be the difference between whitespot or no whiespot so not necessarily the shops fault have you checked the fish still instore to see if they have it also? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrienne Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 I would ring to let them know and then they could at least check to make sure that the others don't have it. I don't think they should have to pay for the cost of medications as its a case of 'buyer beware' and certainly the shops up here have signs to that effect. I was asking as to what fish because my first treatment for white spot is to up the temperature and salt the tank but khuli loaches won't cope with that so you'll need to go down the medications route instead. Keep the water changes going daily as vacuuming will remove the cysts that drop off due to the increased temp. If you do up the tank to 30 it would be advisable to add an airline as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morcs Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 Hey thanks. I have kuhlies so ill 1/2 it. How many w/c's should i do? Just the one? Or do one each day until i get the stuff? You can do each day if you like. the theory behind it is that if you remove half the water, you are removing half the free swimming cysts , same with gravel siphoning. It wont erradicate it, but it will help control it a bit. Damage limitation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mel Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 The white spot tonic will stain your silca sand but only the top layer after treatment it can be stirred up and you won't notice the staining. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix44 Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 yea but palmy Animates is ALOT different to the Animates down here. oh. why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AquaVitamins Posted January 17, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 Cool. I will try to go tomorrow. If i get the meds, will i still need to up the temp? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bronze-dragon Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 oh. why? The people up there know about fish and I can spend an hour at Animates down here and no one will talk to us. I have also pointed out bad white spot before and been told that they had not seen it but would show there boss the next day. We saw one of the other girls sell those fish about 30 min latter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mel Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 Cool. I will try to go tomorrow. If i get the meds, will i still need to up the temp? increasing the temp only speeds up the life cycle of the whitespot - so quicker to treat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oO SKIPPY Oo Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 i went into the lower hutt animates about a month ago and they had 4 tanks that needed looking at - i pointed them all out to them and they were like oh crap - and treated them all straight away - it all depends on who is working at the time and if they know what they are doing - if you go to the kaiwharawhara store make sure you speak to Les - him and one other girl there are the only ones i would really talk to as they seem to know what they are talking about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxdarnixx Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 do you guys not use formalin for white spot? i love it because it seems to get rid of it quick and safe in community tanks ect... can even use it on fry with no deaths Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bronze-dragon Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 if you go to the kaiwharawhara store make sure you speak to Les - him and one other girl there are the only ones i would really talk to as they seem to know what they are talking about yea Les is VERY good at his job! pity he may not be there for much longer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morcs Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 do you guys not use formalin for white spot? i love it because it seems to get rid of it quick and safe in community tanks ect... can even use it on fry with no deaths Formalin is great for killing ALL bacteria. Including the good stuff. Its great stuff, I use it once per month and refer to it as 'nuking' the tanks :lol: Big water changes the next day followed by minor ammonia readings and bacterial blooms usually follow in the week after are the downsides though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oO SKIPPY Oo Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 yea Les is VERY good at his job! pity he may not be there for much longer really - have you heard hes leaving ? do you know where he is going ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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