livingart Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 anyone know what these are caught these today in the habour while whitebaiting fish is around 2 cm and swims like a clown, brown with a white tail will try for a better pic also caught a 7.5cm barracuda not sure of this one, anyone recognise it fins are wrong for a terakhi pectorals are more rounded than in photo colour without flash are darker markings maybe juvenile colours fish is 2.5cm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-town... Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 Can help with i.d but they look Awesome! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neon Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 The first one looks like a goldfish which has adapted to salt water Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingart Posted October 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 those are funny goldfish you have been looking at neon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Navarre Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 In the second one I see Moki shape but kahawi colours Hard to tell as you usuallly dont see them this small eh did you get a feed anyway LA...whitebait I mean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingart Posted October 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 whitebait are for the tanks or fish/turtle food Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkfur Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 I fink #1 is some kind of goby or "blennoid" as this website calls them http://www.sbs.auckland.ac.nz/uoa/science/about/departments/sbs/research/ecolevol/clements-kendall/nz-triplefin-fishes/nz-triplefin-fishes_home.cfm of the triplefin family. They are uber-common in NZ waters, that's a particularly cute one! have a look on http://www.fishbase.org/search.php too, you can narrow things down by making it NZ waters only and by making it reef-associated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flatfish Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 Hard to tell for certain at such a small size but the second fish looks like a very small common warehou (Seriolella brama). Patterning would be juvenile colours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supasi Posted November 11, 2009 Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 Are the fish above legal catch size limits?? :lol: :lol: I agree with Warehou for the second fish. The first one is awesome. If I caught that myself it would inspire me to setup a coldwater salt just to keep them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingart Posted November 11, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 yes are warehou, i apologis for catching these fish but they were originally unidentifiable little brown fish is possibly some type of blenny or weed fish, still unidebtified as it is still possibly in larval stage i have been asked that if it dies to freeze it into a block of ice and to send to a scientist i also have caught some fish at 5mm that are starting to look like stargazers i got started on local marine about 25 yrs ago when i pulled an old fan belt out of the habour with a pair of seahorses attached supasi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flatfish Posted November 11, 2009 Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 Just a guess out of left field. The colour pattern and fin proportions could change as the fish grows. The fish you caught has two dorsal (top) fins (the 1st one is very short, the 2nd one very long) and an anal (bottom) fin only slightly shorter than the 2nd dorsal fin. It also appears to have a chin barbel. It also has white/clear edges to the dorsal and anal fin and a white tail. This could change to white fin margins in larger fish. I may be completely wrong but how about a species of Lotella: either the rock cod, Lotella rhacinus, or the beardie, Lotella phycis. Heres a pic of a much larger beardie, courtesy of fish base http://www.fishbase.gr/summary/SpeciesS ... ame=phycis Regardless its an awesone looking fish and I'm sure Te Papa would be interested in the pic and the fish (if it dies) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingart Posted November 11, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 that was a guess at ID i got back in and is probably the closest so far as to top finnage and snout shape it still has the wide pectoral fins and swims like a weedfish time will tell if it survives Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flatfish Posted November 11, 2009 Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 If its got a chin barbel (finger like flap off tissue at the front of the lower jaw used for detecting prey in the sand or mud) then that narrows the field down a lot. Morid cods (red cod, rock cod, beardie, etc) have the barbel, and as you say the same snout shape and a large mouth near the bottom of the head. If the tail fin is rounded at the end versus straight then that rules out a red cod. The wide long pectorals are different and the colour pattern but the pectoral fin growth may slow down as the fish get older. Anyway nothing like a stab in the dark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingart Posted November 11, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 a stab in the dark can hurt when your surrounded by porcupines Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flatfish Posted December 1, 2009 Report Share Posted December 1, 2009 I just talked to Andrew Stewart fish guru from Te Papa, and one of the NIWA fish experts and they agree its a cod, probably one of the 2 Lotella species: a rock cod or beardie. Andrew said this colour pattern has never been reported before as they have never seen a Lotella this small before. How are the little fish doing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingart Posted December 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2009 all are live and well, i haven't had to freeze any into a block of ice and sent to te papa yet i have been trying to get an update pic will post when i can Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puttputt Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 My chillers been running alot keeping the tanks below 18 degrees, having a spell of heat and humidity - cant see the fish for condensation at the mo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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