A-town... Posted August 14, 2009 Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 well someone forgot to turn off the co2 and the clowns got whitespot overnight they are in quarintine but fighter angels and tetras have now developed it :roll: What are the best methods to use without killing the plants? increased temp medication ??? and the water quality is prestine before anyone asks and co2 levels back to normal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix44 Posted August 14, 2009 Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 temp at 30C and salt. you know that green stuff used to cure white spot at animates? see if you can take some of that home, mix about 3 drops of that to 4 drops of tonic. your plants should be sweet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VinsonMassif Posted August 14, 2009 Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 I have used 1.5tsp salt to 3.75L (1 US g) with plants and the only affected plant was java fern which bounced back. Salt is a two week course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BikBok Posted August 14, 2009 Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 i've used 1/4 t salt per litre with plants and they've been ok. I read somewhere that salt toleration of most plants is around 1000mg/L which is a bit less than 1/4 t Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jc360 Posted August 14, 2009 Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 what about setting up a tank for all your live stock, every last fish??? Treat all fish in there for about two weeks, make sure this tank has got great filtration, heaps of hiding places and no light. With your display tank fishless the parasite will eventually die of starvation, daily vacuum this tank to remove the infant stage of the parasite, as well as treat the tank with salt (warning: the salt can have a detrimental impact on your plants), and as stated increase the temp to 30 degrees (this increases the speed of the life cycle of the parasite). good luck if you move your fish quickly they will still be quite strong, so shouldnt have too much of a negative impact on the fish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamH Posted August 14, 2009 Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 well someone forgot to turn off the co2 and the clowns got whitespot overnight they are in quarintine but fighter angels and tetras have now developed it :roll: My CO2 has been running hardcore for nearly a week, does it give fish whitespot?! I've only got a naughty Platy in there but still... I'd suggest a hospital tank for treatment, dosing in the main tank is usually a last resort. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VinsonMassif Posted August 14, 2009 Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 what about setting up a tank for all your live stock, every last fish??? Because Ich has a cyst stage in the substrate. But it does not have a dormant stage so once you are rid of it You have to introduce it again to your tank to get a new infestation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LYNDYLOO Posted August 14, 2009 Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 I would be treating the Tank that the Fish were in when they got Whitespot. No good treating them in a Hospital Tank, then reintroducing them back into the Tank they where in when they got Whitespot, it only takes 1 or 2 of those little Cysts to be remaining, to start the whole cycle off again. I wouldn't be mucking around with salt etc, I think your better to treat with meds and get it sorted quickly, before it gets out of hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix44 Posted August 14, 2009 Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 I think he like me would be more worried about the plants, and the damage the meds could do to the plants :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo Posted August 14, 2009 Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 Sound like a broken record here but. Blue circle whitespot cure. I treated a planted tank a few months ago and no problems Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted August 14, 2009 Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 Most meds used for whitespot at the suggested concentration will not be too detrimental to plants. Some meds that do are formaldehyde and flourish excel. I have used tonic, malachite, meth blue, acriflavine, quinine, mepacrine, copper sulphate, furan 2 and a few antibiotics without any problems that I recall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-town... Posted August 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 WOW. thanks for all the replies people! I may try a weak blue circle white spot treatment first. as phoenix said I am more concerned about the plants than the fish. fish are easy to replace but not some of the plants I have I removed the clowns and they are getting a lot better. Its not very severe whitespot at the moment with only a few spots on fins not intire body covered. And yes I know I need to treat asap. is there anything more natural. only thing with most treatments is its going to mke silicon blue :evil: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted August 14, 2009 Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 Acriflavine, malachite green or furan should not damage your plants or colour the RTV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jc360 Posted August 14, 2009 Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 yeah i was thinking of the plants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LYNDYLOO Posted August 14, 2009 Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 Your plants will be fine with Blue Circle White Spot Cure I would pop your Loaches back into your Main Tank and Treat with Meds at Half strength. Do a big Water Change then redose after 3 Days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morcs Posted August 15, 2009 Report Share Posted August 15, 2009 My Oscar just got Ich. Problem is, sand substate gets stained by methylyne blue. I have the green white spot cure (which works) but scared to use it as It will stain my sand with a light hue of radioactive green Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LYNDYLOO Posted August 15, 2009 Report Share Posted August 15, 2009 Maybe dilute it to half strength, obviously the Colour wont be as intense, then redose again in 3 Days, after doing a good Water Change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purplecatfish Posted August 15, 2009 Report Share Posted August 15, 2009 I thought I read somewhere that malachite green can kill neon or cardinal tetras so you might have to be careful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted August 15, 2009 Report Share Posted August 15, 2009 I have never had trouble using malachite on cardinals or neons. Although malachite green is no relation to malachite the copper ore, many fish which are sensitive to copper are also sensitive to malachite green but as far as I know this is not so of tetras. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzz Posted August 15, 2009 Report Share Posted August 15, 2009 I have never had trouble using malachite on cardinals or neons. Although malachite green is no relation to malachite the copper ore, many fish which are sensitive to copper are also sensitive to malachite green but as far as I know this is not so of tetras. From Wikipedia, Malachite green is known to be highly toxic to certain freshwater fish such as tetras, catfish and shark catfish. It is strongly recommended that half-dosage be observed in treating freshwater tanks with catfish, tetras, scaleless, and other bottom feeder fish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted August 15, 2009 Report Share Posted August 15, 2009 Thanks for the info, but I have used it with no ill effect many times on tetras and catfish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LYNDYLOO Posted August 15, 2009 Report Share Posted August 15, 2009 I've used Malachite Green with my Neons,Cardinals and Loaches before, I always halve my Meds when dosing because of the Loaches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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