masseypets Posted August 1, 2009 Report Share Posted August 1, 2009 You could try Melafix, not cheap but one of the best and less toxic than Furan. Helps with open wounds too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanjury Posted August 1, 2009 Report Share Posted August 1, 2009 Only problem is I have found melafix doesn't actually do anything.. If you have a bacterial infection you need to wipe it out with antibiotics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingart Posted August 1, 2009 Report Share Posted August 1, 2009 +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix44 Posted August 1, 2009 Report Share Posted August 1, 2009 ive only found melafix to be effective only if the fish has a scratch or a minor wound. if its bacterial use an antibiotic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted August 1, 2009 Report Share Posted August 1, 2009 Unfortunately Furan is about the only effective antibiotic available without prescription. I have never used malifix and never will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingart Posted August 1, 2009 Report Share Posted August 1, 2009 melafix contains plant oil the US. patent office http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Pars ... RS=5882647 Shortened version "Melafix is composed of: 1% cajeput oil 1% emulsifier (Crovol PK-70 nonionic emulsifier) 0.2% defoamer (FG-10 by Dow Corning) 97.8% deionized water" An aqueous solution without emulsifier and defoamer can be used, but the mixture must be shaken vigorously for 1-5 minutes first. Note cajeput oil is another name for oil from the tree Melaleuca. From my reading, the patent is based on oil from a vietnamese version of the tree, Melaleuca cajuputi, M. leucadendron and other species of Melaleuca. Apparently some of the herbal/health food oil, called "Tea tree oil" is from an australian version of the Melaleuca tree, Melaleuca alternifolia . Haven't heard of any specific differentiation. However, it appears that the term cajeput is used only for the vietnamese oils from M. cajuputi and M. leucadendron. So if you want to be mixing EXACTLY the same stuff, it seems to me you want to find "cajeput" oil, not merely "Tea tree" oil. Also wondering about the "CAS# 8008-98-8" I found it is a scientific reference which translates to "Oil of cajeput [8008-98-8] Synonyms: Melaleuca cajuputi powell oil; Melaleuca leucadendron l. oil; Cajuput oil; Oil of cajeput; Cajeput oil" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamH Posted August 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 1, 2009 All the red on his fins is gone and he's just being his normal self, but more hungry. He likes to swim into the pot, hide in the dark, then slowly come out. It looks super wicked and kinda scary. Can I feed him or not? If so, flakes or freeze dried bloodworms? Today I'm supposed to do a 25% water change and add 1ml per 30 litres. Sound okay? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix44 Posted August 1, 2009 Report Share Posted August 1, 2009 feeeeeeeed him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamH Posted August 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 1, 2009 Thanks Phoeeeeeeeenix! Did WC, added more tonic, he still ignores me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamH Posted August 7, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 Just when I though he was all better, he has a HUGE red streak on his fins, bigger than all of his previous streaks and dots combined. It's already eaten through some of his fin. Day one: I added 28 drops Day three: Did a 25% water change, added 1ml Day seven: Did a 50% water change Just as tonic instructed. Can I add some more? Or should I wait and get some Furan? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkfur Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 I'd be busting out the Furan at this point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamH Posted August 7, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 I'll get some as soon as I can tomorrow, I hope it'll be fast enough. I had all disappeared but now its come back. GRRR! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamH Posted August 8, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 8, 2009 I went to Pet Pac today and they'd just run out of Furan :evil: They weren't getting any more until later this week so I got some Betta Fix Remidie in the mean time. Put him in a cut down soft drink bottle with exactly 500ml of water and some gravel and a plant. Put that inside his tank and added the Betta Fix. He's just sitting in the plant at the moment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrienne Posted August 14, 2009 Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 Hows the fish Sam? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamH Posted August 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 Not good. The rot has spread down to his body. He's acting normal and still eating but he's getting worse. I'm thinking it's time to put him out of it. I used to use the rapid emersion in boiling water technique and this killed the fish instantly but I've read that it's not okay. Can I add drops of alcohol until the fish dies or is there a better method? I don't have any clove oil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix44 Posted August 14, 2009 Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 put him in brand new water. keep a whole lot of water in buckets and chuck him in new water every day or so Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BikBok Posted August 14, 2009 Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 Sam.. what about Furan? has petpac got some more in yet?? Otherwise I have 6 capsules you can borrow.. just replace when you can as I like to have some on standbye. I also have some clove oil if you're desperate. Where abouts in Manukau are you? I'm in wattle Downs, Manurewa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamH Posted August 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 I'll ring PetPac now and see if they have any. Thanks for the offer but I'd rather buy my own, less complicated. Is Furan really any good though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamH Posted August 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 No Furan at PetPac, they're still trying to get it in though. Might try some other places. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BikBok Posted August 14, 2009 Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 furan-2 it's not cheap but is "effective against gram positive and gram negative organisms" teh active ingredients are furazolidone, nitrofurazone and meth blue. Seems to be a broad spectrum systematic antibiotic.. will get in their system and not just treat surface infection. It turns the water yellowish green .. and it did leave slight staining on my silicone but barely noticeable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BikBok Posted August 15, 2009 Report Share Posted August 15, 2009 the offer is there Sam if you get stuck.. Just PM me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamH Posted August 15, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 15, 2009 Thanks heaps BikBok. I'm just treating him like royalty, feeding his favourite food. I don't think he'll make it, even if I do have Furan but I don't want to put him out of it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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