scales & tails fishfa Posted July 20, 2009 Report Share Posted July 20, 2009 Me ticked off ----> l:( I set up this small tank thats about 20-25 liters. It had matured by letting it cycle through and having various fish in it over a month. I checked all the ph, ammonia, nitrate, nitrite and it was all fine. I added a bit of aquarium antiseptics, like stress guard, every now and then...... IT WAS ALL PERFECT!!!!! :evil: I removed all the fish that were in there, had it cleaned and bought a dwarf puffer. I was perfectly healthy when I got it. I acclimatised it over an hour and set it in my aquarium. After an hour I came back to feed him some blood worms and he was floating at the top dead, covered in white, gluey looking stuff. After a week I bought another puffer from a different source and the same thing happened and I tried a 3erd time and it happend again. What is happening!? I really like dwarf puffers and want to have one. In the tank there are no other fish. The equipment is all safe. I it is some bog wood, a few small snails ( puffers eat them) and lots of plants. Please help. My birthday is coming up in a week or so and I want another puffer for my birthday, but I want him to live!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamH Posted July 20, 2009 Report Share Posted July 20, 2009 I removed all the fish that were in there, had it cleaned and bought a dwarf puffer. How much did you clean it? It sounds very suspicious... Never heard of anything like this before but if it's happening in matter of hours then a whole tank tear down might be needed. Good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supasi Posted July 20, 2009 Report Share Posted July 20, 2009 As stated above. It sounds like the cleaning may be the cause. What have you used to clean it with? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BikBok Posted July 20, 2009 Report Share Posted July 20, 2009 could it be the same gooey slimy stuff I was having on my heater suction cups of ONE particular brand? seems to hit new heaters of that particular brand. I have had it in all 3 tanks when I first set them up.. but no fish losses because I wiped away and suctioned off every day. I'm hoping to have some dwarf puffers one day . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaNs Posted July 20, 2009 Report Share Posted July 20, 2009 Tested the water? They are quite sensitive fish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrienne Posted July 20, 2009 Report Share Posted July 20, 2009 I would have said ammonia by your description. I don't know anything really about puffers but are they not brackish fish? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jolliolli Posted July 20, 2009 Report Share Posted July 20, 2009 dwarf freshwater puffers are fully freshwater. Bought a couple today myself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Posted July 20, 2009 Report Share Posted July 20, 2009 dwarf freshwater puffers are fully freshwater. Bought a couple today myself Which dwarf puffers? There are freshwater dwarf puffers, there are brackish dwarf puffers and there are full marine dwarf puffers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jolliolli Posted July 20, 2009 Report Share Posted July 20, 2009 I assume he is talking about the fully freshwater dwarf puffers, i think the latin name is Carinotetraodon travancoricus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix44 Posted July 20, 2009 Report Share Posted July 20, 2009 what is your pH? and how did you introduce them into the tank? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingart Posted July 20, 2009 Report Share Posted July 20, 2009 these guys do not like raised ammonia or nitrite levels your existing fish can live with higher levels if it raises slowly in the tank adding a new fish even with an extended float off period can still shock sensitive fish being slimy coated after death suggests the mucus layer on the fish has reacted to water conditions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jolliolli Posted July 21, 2009 Report Share Posted July 21, 2009 what is your pH? and how did you introduce them into the tank? are you talking to me phoenix? don't know the ph i don't measure it, tank has been running for around 1 1/2 years and is planted, i would hazard a guess that its around the 7.2 mark. I didn't do anything special to introduce them, i actually just made sure hte water was the same temp and put them in. I think sometimes you can stress a fish out if you take too long acclimating. They are happy wee fellas, they are in a 40 litre tank with an SAE. They are around 1cm long at the moment, fed them some bloodworms yesterdy and the bloodworm was bigger than the puffer still managed to eat two of them though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix44 Posted July 21, 2009 Report Share Posted July 21, 2009 :lol: no i was asking ST&F Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jolliolli Posted July 21, 2009 Report Share Posted July 21, 2009 oh well , :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmsmith Posted July 22, 2009 Report Share Posted July 22, 2009 Puffers have no gill coverings, so are very susceptible to ammonia as others have previously said. They also cannot cope with nitrate, copper or chlorine. That means that you need to make sure that your water has been sitting for at least 24hrs before introducing them, and that NO copper has been used to medicate your fish. I would suggest that you have probably used a copper based medication that has been absorbed into your substrate and decorations and is now leaching into the water. You should always drip acclimitise puffers and other fish that don't have gill coverings over an hour or more because they can deal with changes in water chemistry better over an extended period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Posted July 22, 2009 Report Share Posted July 22, 2009 I'm not convinced gill coverings, or lack of it, is going to significantly matter to an organ that is fully immersed in a continuous flow of water? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmsmith Posted July 22, 2009 Report Share Posted July 22, 2009 I'm not convinced gill coverings, or lack of it, is going to significantly matter to an organ that is fully immersed in a continuous flow of water? Apparenly that's the reason why they can't handle copper. Whatever the reason for their sensitivity, copper is still my guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scales & tails fishfa Posted July 24, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 Hi there. Still don't know whats wrong. I checked the back of all the products I used and theres no copper in the products. These are freshwater puffers. Amonia, nitrite and nitrate where zero according to a few tests. The ph was 7. There were no other fish in the tank. There was some new stones, gravel, bogwood and plants that I bought from HollyWood Fish Farm and washed well. The tank had matured. PLEASE HELP ME?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmsmith Posted July 24, 2009 Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 What sort of filter were you using? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southerrrngirrl Posted July 24, 2009 Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 Copper pipes in your house?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scales & tails fishfa Posted July 28, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2009 No copper pipes. Just a sponge filter with some active carbon that had been washed out properly. I've left the puffer thought for now though. I have cleared it out whilst I cycle my marine tank again as it has had major problems and now the small "puffer to be hopefully" tank is housing some corals. They're all perfectly happy in the tank. Oh well. Try again in a few months. :roll: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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