Davd-lw Posted April 15, 2009 Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 here are some of beautiful 'chrysanthemum tail' HM in the world, so called 'half sun' lol on TM. Note: they are NOT CT X HM i have proved it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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A-town... Posted April 15, 2009 Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 wow those are some stunning fighters! I saw that half sun comment googled it and couldnt find anything on "half suns" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diver21 Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 are these guys yours david? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashzbetta Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 hey everyone for the past 3 years i have been reading up on siamese fighter genetics (i have a great exciting life) these fish are considered EXTREME ROSETAILS they are bad fish so to speak and should not be bred from half sun's are HM x CT they have a 180 degree spread and less than 33% reduced webbing on all 3 fins rosetails are excessively branched Hm's bred from Hm's with excessive rays in their fins extreme rosetails and from breeding rosetails together, these fish have extreme trouble swimming and should never be bred from rosetails should only be bred to a Hm with less rays, such as a ROSETAIL x Hm with 4rays NOT rosetail x rosetail, rosetail x extreme rosetail, or rosetail x Hm with 12rays cheers ashley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashzbetta Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 more information on rosetails at these two sites http://www.bettas4all.nl/viewtopic.php?t=949 http://www.bettas4all.nl/viewtopic.php?t=67 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davd-lw Posted April 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 are these guys yours david? nay, these arent mine, i have one pictured in my other topic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davd-lw Posted April 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 hey everyone for the past 3 years i have been reading up on siamese fighter genetics (i have a great exciting life) these fish are considered EXTREME ROSETAILS they are bad fish so to speak and should not be bred from half sun's are HM x CT they have a 180 degree spread and less than 33% reduced webbing on all 3 fins rosetails are excessively branched Hm's bred from Hm's with excessive rays in their fins extreme rosetails and from breeding rosetails together, these fish have extreme trouble swimming and should never be bred from rosetails should only be bred to a Hm with less rays, such as a ROSETAIL x Hm with 4rays NOT rosetail x rosetail, rosetail x extreme rosetail, or rosetail x Hm with 12rays cheers ashley hat off for you. Ashley. deep and clear explaination. as what i said, i am still a student, who are very very passionate about the beautiful warriors. but i did not x breed any HM with CT, both parents are HM, and without any CT sign in them. i only got few ROSETAIL fries. just quite curious :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davd-lw Posted April 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 hey everyone for the past 3 years i have been reading up on siamese fighter genetics (i have a great exciting life) these fish are considered EXTREME ROSETAILS they are bad fish so to speak and should not be bred from half sun's are HM x CT they have a 180 degree spread and less than 33% reduced webbing on all 3 fins rosetails are excessively branched Hm's bred from Hm's with excessive rays in their fins extreme rosetails and from breeding rosetails together, these fish have extreme trouble swimming and should never be bred from rosetails should only be bred to a Hm with less rays, such as a ROSETAIL x Hm with 4rays NOT rosetail x rosetail, rosetail x extreme rosetail, or rosetail x Hm with 12rays cheers ashley any pics of your previous fighters? please, please, please. :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: another Guru here guys. thanks Ashley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jfishfanatic Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 MG butterfly halfmoon. Which i breed with blue butterfly female. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jfishfanatic Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 red butterfly CT ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashzbetta Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 any pics of your previous fighters? please, please, please. :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: another Guru here guys. thanks Ashley. ha ha i spend most of my time reading about bettas because i have a limit to how many fish tanks i can have (3) so atm i have no males a few females vt and ct and pk and 45 babies Vt x Ct living with my parents atm but when i move out will have many many tanks but i know a fair bit on betta genetics and other things so feel free to pm me if you have any questions about breeding and other things cheers ashley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashzbetta Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 images of TRUE HALFSUNS http://www.bettas4all.nl/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=1083 ashley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-town... Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 WOW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davd-lw Posted April 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 images of TRUE HALFSUNS http://www.bettas4all.nl/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=1083 ashley lol. any pic of your own fish? please . please. the ones you had before, HM, CT, PK, etc. i have trouble with the breeding time, do you know what time do fighter usually breed? arond 8pm? coz mine always breed at 5am in the morning. many thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davd-lw Posted April 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 Ashley, the pic you post is CT X HM, which i have proved 1yr ago, even longer Ray and bigger tail. the topic i am talking about is MUM tail. not the so called 'half sun'. i do not even know who name them recently, i just got some pic from a chinese forum, the fallow who breed some awesome fighters. there are few mum tail i accidently got from my PURE HM pairs. its defnetly not a x one. many thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron-Betta Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 i have trouble with the breeding time, do you know what time do fighter usually breed? arond 8pm? coz mine always breed at 5am in the morning. many thanks They usually breed at sun up. I used to let my pairs go together in the evenings, and in the morning or sometimes as late as 10am they would be spawning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashzbetta Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 Ashley, the pic you post is CT X HM, which i have proved 1yr ago, even longer Ray and bigger tail. the topic i am talking about is MUM tail. not the so called 'half sun'. i do not even know who name them recently, i just got some pic from a chinese forum, the fallow who breed some awesome fighters. there are few mum tail i accidently got from my PURE HM pairs. its defnetly not a x one. many thanks! yes half suns are Ct x Hm and any photos of the mum tailed fish you got and possibly photos of their parents?? They usually breed at sun up. I used to let my pairs go together in the evenings, and in the morning or sometimes as late as 10am they would be spawning. i think many fish will breed in their own tine, some as soon as you release the females others do wait untill early morning etc i also have heard that bettas breed best during a full moon, i havent tried it as i can only breed every 3 months or so but it could be worth a try Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron-Betta Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 You're right Ash, heaps of things help trigger spawning - slightly warmer water temp, a storm coming changes the air pressure and can help trigger spawning, moon cycles, luck, alsorts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davd-lw Posted April 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 yes half suns are Ct x Hm and any photos of the mum tailed fish you got and possibly photos of their parents?? i think many fish will breed in their own tine, some as soon as you release the females others do wait untill early morning etc i also have heard that bettas breed best during a full moon, i havent tried it as i can only breed every 3 months or so but it could be worth a try they are already in my updated topic have a look . thanks. viewtopic.php?f=14&t=37290&start=75 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davd-lw Posted April 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 here was the father here was the mother Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davd-lw Posted April 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 lol. there are only two certain times fighter breed during a day, no matter what. lol. who has the answer? :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-town... Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 lol. there are only two certain times fighter breed during a day, no matter what. lol. who has the answer? :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: HAMMER TIME DUN DUN DUN DUN,DUN DUN, DUN DUN ahahahahahah :bounce: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashzbetta Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 here was the father here was the mother well the father has some heavy branching which would mean he has some rosetail in him, that still makes him a pure Hm rosetail just means he has heavy branching or lots of rays, none of the fry look to be heavy rosetails but i would suggest breeding them to a Hm female with less ray branching, maybe 4-6 rays another problem you can get with rosetails is they normally have scale faults, some can have major scale faults, and scale faults can be passed to their fry if bred from ashley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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