axolotl-danio Posted February 24, 2009 Report Share Posted February 24, 2009 Have a look at this: http://www.eheimasiapacific.com/prod_e_ ... 3eusb.html :bounce: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATC Posted February 24, 2009 Report Share Posted February 24, 2009 That's a little weird.. and cool at the same time lol. It could be handy to be able to setup a fish room and control it all from a computer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Posted February 24, 2009 Report Share Posted February 24, 2009 What does it need USB and software updates for? Is it going to be like windows and you'll have to wait for the release of Eheim Service Pack 2 before your filter will actually pump water? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k1w1y2k Posted February 24, 2009 Report Share Posted February 24, 2009 Looks good, but will it crash or freeze, and what happens when your computer Implied swearing removed - Admin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted February 24, 2009 Report Share Posted February 24, 2009 What can the computer do to the filter but turn it on and off and tell you when it needs cleaning. I will buy one when they make it so the computer cleans it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanjury Posted February 24, 2009 Report Share Posted February 24, 2009 What can the computer do to the filter but turn it on and off and tell you when it needs cleaning. I will buy one when they make it so the computer cleans it. lol Exactly what I was thinking.. What can you do to a filter apart from turning it on and off and you ideally want it running 24/7? Maybe they're going to market it as a power saver running it for half an hour every hour or something. Sounds like marketing to me can just see people in the shops "this is the top of the line filter you can even program it with your computer". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simian Posted February 24, 2009 Report Share Posted February 24, 2009 Oh how fast they are to mock :roll: It is non nonsensical for a company to spend a large amount of cash for something that has no value. There is actually plenty of things to change/monitor on a filtration system. Flow being the primary process variable monitoring and controlling this can be for a large # of reasons. Simple flow monitoring will tell you when your filter needs servicing or flag an alarm in the case of it not working. More complex control of flow can be used to simulate more accurately the fish's environment -ie surging etc also in a planted tank I believe that changing the flow for the day night cycle has an effect. Or alternatively we keep the flow constant despite the continual blocking of the filter therefore keeping our biological function constant. I can especially see benefits for a marine system which is very fragile, corals like surges in flow etc and even a short interruption in filtration can be very costly. I see very little to mock i just wish I had the money to afford one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATC Posted February 25, 2009 Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 Exactly Simian, I wouldn't go out and buy one straight away but I think once the technology has evolved a little it could be a wise investment for those with multiple tanks (which is almost everyone ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Posted February 25, 2009 Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 I can especially see benefits for a marine system which is very fragile, corals like surges in flow etc and even a short interruption in filtration can be very costly. Except cannisters should never be used with marines, especially with corals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whetu Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 I'm just surprised how little info there is on that website - which is why it's so open to speculation. If I was running that website i would at least list a few of the functions, and their benefits to the aquarium and/or the aquarium keeper. Come on Eheim, don't just leave us guessing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix44 Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 I'm sure i mentioned these filters on here a long time ago... the software on the computer enables you to know when to do waterchanges etc... that and you can reduce the flow at night or when ever you like...i think the newer updates have provision for a self diagnostic thingy if anything goes wrong. that and you can monitor flow and stuff and use it like a wavemaker if you need to. the aftermarket extras are awesome too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zabman Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 I wonder how long it is before they make a filter that can give you information on water paramaters such as pH, KH, ammonia, nitrate/nitrite levels etc. Would actually be handy to log onto your laptop and see all that info, including when your last filterclean & waterchange was, what your flowrates are etc. you could go one further and make software that can cover more things like how many hours old your bulbs are, but this would require human input. I know alot of people will argue that its unnecessary, but personally I like the idea of being able to see 90% of your tank paramaters at a glance. I'm sure there are others out there that don't record when different maintenence is done, then can't remember when its due! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 I wonder how long it is before they make a filter that can give you information on water paramaters such as pH, KH, ammonia, nitrate/nitrite levels etc. I You can already buy tank computers that will do a lot of that, including managing your lighting and works as a wavemaker. The problem isn't really the system to monitor, record and display the information. That's just a few lines of code, the major problem is the hardware to detect the levels. There are PH, temp and salinity sensors that work fine. But calcium, KH, ammonia, nitrate all as far as I know cannot be detected with a sensor and need a reagent test. Which, I suppose is possible to automate, but would be expensive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oeminx Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 also think of the possibility if you can monitor your water parameters and then have a rss feed to a pc or a web interface to log into so you can keep an eye on you tank when you are away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 Heh, that also exists. And equipment that will send you a text if there is a problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simian Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 Except cannisters should never be used with marines, especially with corals. Interesting, they suggest it for salt of fresh water on the site, I'm not a salty tho. :-? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simian Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 Heh, that also exists. And equipment that will send you a text if there is a problem. I could do all that for you if you have an arm and leg to spend, 5-7 k would cover it 8) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix44 Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 fot 7k I'd sit there and measure all the parameters, and report back to you on the clock :lol: :bounce: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke* Posted March 3, 2009 Report Share Posted March 3, 2009 haha can you make coffee and water change the tank too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix44 Posted March 3, 2009 Report Share Posted March 3, 2009 ha ha sure,i'll even bring my coffee machine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evil_elmo Posted March 3, 2009 Report Share Posted March 3, 2009 man you wonder how much this new filter is going to cost, the pro3 and pro3e is already expensive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simian Posted March 3, 2009 Report Share Posted March 3, 2009 Not all aquarists are strapped for cash, ever watch Bruce Biggalo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu :) Posted March 5, 2009 Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 man you wonder how much this new filter is going to cost, the pro3 and pro3e is already expensive From what I read two months back on another forum; it could easily cost a good chunk more then a FX5! Remember this is first generation technology so it's going to cost a bomb, however USB integration is on the surface a fairly cheap and simple setup- two chips, driver and a sazzy bit of software. If the technology catches on it would only be a matter of time before the likes of Kongs/AquaOne, Jebo, Weipro, SunSun, etc start making their own and bring the price of the technology down. Now I don't have a problem with the potential software updates for my aquarium... but what concerns me is what's a fishy version of the 'Blue Screen of Death' Stu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oeminx Posted March 5, 2009 Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 deep blue screen of death <>< <>< A known bug has occurred but we have know idea how to fix it and those linux guys aint helpping us ><> ><> It may be possible to continue normally.... but this is extremely unlikely unless you lucky stars are aligned * press any key to continue * press any cntl alt del to restart you computer you will loses all unsaved data and some saved stuff because I think you'll get so lols from it. O and you filter stopped pumping 3 days ago because you were out of virtual memory. <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evil_elmo Posted March 6, 2009 Report Share Posted March 6, 2009 From what I read two months back on another forum; it could easily cost a good chunk more then a FX5! Remember this is first generation technology so it's going to cost a bomb, however USB integration is on the surface a fairly cheap and simple setup- two chips, driver and a sazzy bit of software. If the technology catches on it would only be a matter of time before the likes of Kongs/AquaOne, Jebo, Weipro, SunSun, etc start making their own and bring the price of the technology down. Now I don't have a problem with the potential software updates for my aquarium... but what concerns me is what's a fishy version of the 'Blue Screen of Death' Stu the pro3e 2076 the lowest of the pro 3 range already cost more than a fx5!! and it only does 400litres but i would still buy it over a fx5 due to the quality of the filter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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