February 23, 200917 yr comment_292185 Hi there, I'm fairly new to keeping fish but I'm looking into starting another coldwater tank but I haven't got the slightest clue as to what fish can handle coldwater. I already know goldfish, minnows...etc can. But is there actually any other species that can? Unusual or common fish don't bother me, I'd just like some ideas. Thank you. Report
February 23, 200917 yr comment_292203 NZ native fish! :lol: Do need actual cold water, can be tricky over summer. Check out the links in my sig below Report
February 23, 200917 yr Author comment_292208 Well thank you. Atleast someone answered. Is there any other fish that are actually sold in stores? I don't think I can travel very far to get a fish without a car. Report
February 23, 200917 yr comment_292244 You wont have to drive to find native fish. The river behind the High School would be a good place to look in Inglewood. Should be able to find some Bullies and a Koura (Native crayfish), that will get you started with a Native tank. A net, a torch and not being scared to get your feet wet and you can find some fish. There is another post today about restarting the Taranaki club, a native fish expedition is something that could be arranged as a club 'day' out, even if people dont want to keep them, catch and release is still fun. Exotic coldwater fish are not common in NZ, most of them cant be imported because of the possibility of them getting loose in the wild. Cheers Ian Report
February 23, 200917 yr Author comment_292250 Oh wow! Thank you for that. Since I'm really a local myself, or haven't been for very long, I don't know much about this area. That was very helpful, I certainly would consider looking into the club. Those sound very fun and it would be great find out more. You all were very helpful. Report
February 23, 200917 yr comment_292338 There's also some in the stream that runs through Karo park. My parents live in Inglewood and Dad mentioned that he saw some bullies etc in the stream the other day. They are up in Rewa St so gives an idea of the area anyways. Report
February 23, 200917 yr comment_292340 I have Swordtails in a cold tank. From a pet store in the cold water area, also seen them in a fish shop in the cold area for sale. Report
February 23, 200917 yr comment_292341 They are not true coldwater fish though. I really object to swords and guppies being sold as cold water species when they are not. They can survive in the average modern home thanks to insulation and ambient room temperatures which are usually around 18C or higher. Report
February 23, 200917 yr comment_292343 Yeah yeah, you better go talk to Hollywood about that then. If you can buy them and you keep them in the temp range they are happy with then whats the prob. Report
February 23, 200917 yr comment_292347 It is not the temperature range I have a problem with, it is the definition of "cold water". They are semi-tropical and there is a difference. Just because a fish can survive at lower temperatures does not mean it is ideal or best for the fish either. Report
February 23, 200917 yr comment_292351 Coldwater fish are ones that can live without a heater, through a NZ winter. In my old house the kitchen taps would sometimes ice up in Winter, with a room temp down around 6 untill we got the fire going. Sell some newbie a 'coldwater' guppy and it wont make it through the winter. A goldfish, white cloud minnow or native fish (True coldwater) just laugh at a cool morning like that. Ian Report
February 24, 200917 yr comment_292378 While all of what Ian says is true, the big mind-change is summer: you need to be really careful over summer keeping the water pristine and having some sort of cooling, otherwise you risk death and disease from chronic stress or acute low oxygen. It isn't hard, but it does take a bit of effort. And you get to learn more about what is in the streams near you Report
February 24, 200917 yr Author comment_292379 Thank you and I agree with Ianab and Caryl. Guppies won't make it through the winter unless they had a heater which really doesn't make them cold water tolerant. The pet shop in New Plymouth told me that people even put tetras such neons in cold water. Which I just find a little stupid to be honest. But also like Stella said, you also got to think about the summer. A tank will eventually heat up if you don't have any cooling and if you have them in a hot area. But who am I to say, I was the one who asked. :lol: Report
May 13, 200917 yr comment_306083 It is not the temperature range I have a problem with, it is the definition of "cold water". They are semi-tropical and there is a difference. Just because a fish can survive at lower temperatures does not mean it is ideal or best for the fish either. I agree Caryl like the guy selling coldwater guppies in Christchurch. He bought them from a petshop as coldwater guppies. Report
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