Pegasus Posted September 15, 2004 Report Share Posted September 15, 2004 Had an enquiry about having frogs with fish. I know nothing about frogs, but would be interested to know if they expell any toxins, or their waste products could be harmful. the member said... the frogs i got are small pinkish in colour with black eyes Any ideas what these might be..? Thanks, Bill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kim Posted September 15, 2004 Report Share Posted September 15, 2004 are you keeping them out side? i had frogs when i had my fish pond, they are nice the only thing is they will eat the eggs if your gold fish breed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fins Posted September 15, 2004 Report Share Posted September 15, 2004 I guess they could go together. I just wouldnt have a 2cm frog with an arowana or a neon tetra with something the size of a cane toad. Also salt harms frogs so the water should never have salt added. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michelle Posted September 15, 2004 Report Share Posted September 15, 2004 Frogs will generally eat small fish. Larger fish will bite at tadpole tails, frog legs and things. I have been warned about mixing the two. :-? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livebearer_breeder Posted September 15, 2004 Report Share Posted September 15, 2004 you'd preferably want fish the same size as the frogs, DEFFINATLY NOT IN SALTY WATER, it will kill them, and generaly the wast of the fogs doesnt harm them, but you would wont like 20 frogs with 20 fish, or you'd have to clean the tank out every few days, as for the frogs ive done a bit of research on them and have never heard of pinky frogs, wer did they come from? what is ther scientific name? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fins Posted September 15, 2004 Report Share Posted September 15, 2004 Iv never heard of pink frogs either. Maybe they died it pink. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interfecus Posted September 15, 2004 Report Share Posted September 15, 2004 No pink frogs in NZ, that's for sure. Bright colours like that means it was quite probably a dart frog, which you can't get here. Only highly poisonous frogs can afford to be brightly coloured. Be aware that frogs will eat absolutely anything that will fit even partially inside their mouth. Their strategy is that if it moves, eat it. Frogs are sensitive to practically every chemical you can imagine. Do not use salt or any form of fertiliser (even buried in the substrate). They must have an area of land or dense floating plants to climb out on and rest. You need to maintain a high oxygen level in the water. For a full tank, this means aeration. Remember that frogs have no gills as adults and have to breathe through the limited surface area of their skin when underwater. The frogs shouldn't release any toxins that could hurt the fish. None of the frogs present in NZ have any real poison at all. No threat there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pegasus Posted September 15, 2004 Author Report Share Posted September 15, 2004 Thanks for the input guys, and thanks for all the details Inter. A guy from West Scotland has them, and has them in with his fish in a tank. He has fish probs, which I thought may be caused by the frogs. Topic is here... http://aquaprobs.suddenlaunch.com/index ... 1095019525 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pegasus Posted September 16, 2004 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2004 Just found out that the frogs are frogs albino African clawed frogs. Thanks, Bill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livebearer_breeder Posted September 16, 2004 Report Share Posted September 16, 2004 uhh...um are they legal? ive never heard of them in new zealand? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Posted September 16, 2004 Report Share Posted September 16, 2004 They're obviously perfectly legal in West Scotland where the guy that has them is. Also perfectly legal in most of the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livebearer_breeder Posted September 16, 2004 Report Share Posted September 16, 2004 oh ok...well what do i no! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Posted September 16, 2004 Report Share Posted September 16, 2004 Since when have frogs breathed under water Try putting one in a bottle filled to the top, and put on the lid. It dies, it drowns. Ask any frog hunter, if a frog dives, stick around, it's gunna come up sooner or later. Alan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livebearer_breeder Posted September 16, 2004 Report Share Posted September 16, 2004 what r you on about alan? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Posted September 16, 2004 Report Share Posted September 16, 2004 No they aren't legal in NZ. I got caught with some and had them confiscated by MAF. NO I wont tell you where I got them from. But I do know someone who has some also now. NO I'm not saying who. Alan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livebearer_breeder Posted September 16, 2004 Report Share Posted September 16, 2004 you alright alan? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianemone Posted September 16, 2004 Report Share Posted September 16, 2004 man one of them would be cool any one got experiance in hidding things in body cavities? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Posted September 16, 2004 Report Share Posted September 16, 2004 From personal experience I can tell you, Smuggling african clawed frog in your body cavities...Bad idea, VERY bad idea. Smuggling african soft toed frog, not so bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianemone Posted September 16, 2004 Report Share Posted September 16, 2004 from personal experiance :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :-? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pegasus Posted September 16, 2004 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2004 :) Was mentioning the frogs to the grandkids, and they said... "We have frogs in the cattle trough in the paddock grandad... green and yellow ones,," I had hear them... but not seen them.. but obviously the grandkids knew they were there Bill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Posted September 16, 2004 Report Share Posted September 16, 2004 wotcha meen am I alright LB Alan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interfecus Posted September 17, 2004 Report Share Posted September 17, 2004 Alan, frogs can absorb oxygen through their skin. They can stay underwater for quite a long time with that. When they come back up to the surface it's usually more to do with them being very dim than needing oxygen. If you don't move, they don't notice you and come back up because they think the threat has gone. If they get trapped it is still possible for them to drown though since this system isn't very efficient at all. ACFs are completely aquatic so they don't need places to climb out. Most frogs are semi-aquatic and need to be able to climb out of the water. For tree frogs like mine there must be no deep water at all since they swim quite poorly and can get trapped and drown. By the way, I believe they have ACFs at the National Aquarium in Napier. You need a license to keep them though. P.S. It seems kind of stupid to try to smuggle in adult frogs in body cavities! I still woundn't try it myself but I would have thought bringing it in as a bag of frogspawn would be much more successful since more frogs would fit in a limited space, they wouldn't move, and they don't need to breathe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benlee Posted September 23, 2004 Report Share Posted September 23, 2004 i think native frogs to NZ dont have a tadpole stage so any frog that goes through a tadpole stage is introduced and considered by DOC to be a pest. Not 100% sure though, and i dont think there are any frog police out there checking up! not that it matters if the dude is in another country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livebearer_breeder Posted September 24, 2004 Report Share Posted September 24, 2004 cough cough...........WHAT!!!!! all frogs go through a tadpole stage! were'd you come across this info??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cees Posted September 24, 2004 Report Share Posted September 24, 2004 http://www.doc.govt.nz/Conservation/001 ... -Frogs.asp quote " New Zealand's native frogs have several distinctive features, which make them very different from frogs elsewhere in the world: They have no external eardrum. They have round (not slit) eyes. They don't croak regularly like most frogs. They don't have a tadpole stage. The embryo develops inside an egg, and then hatches as an almost fully-formed frog. The young of most species are cared for by their parents - for example, the male Archey's frog may carry his young offspring around on his back. " Amazing, learn something new/interesting everyday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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