Charlie Posted May 2, 2008 Report Share Posted May 2, 2008 I emailed IMER on the legability of Leopard Geckos and they replied with... We are currently working with MAF to sort out a list of those reptiles that are not new organisms – therefore can be in New Zealand. From our records the leopard ghecko appears to be not a new organism, ie not illegal. A bit late but will be really appreciated when ready. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broms2 Posted May 2, 2008 Report Share Posted May 2, 2008 thats good news, will be interesting what they come up with would like to see it on a legal document before you can trust it though!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingart Posted May 2, 2008 Report Share Posted May 2, 2008 the same was said about iguanas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johannes Visser Posted May 2, 2008 Report Share Posted May 2, 2008 the same was said about iguanas :-? :-? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingart Posted May 2, 2008 Report Share Posted May 2, 2008 perhaps a point to make to the authorities in nz is that if the mustelid population in nz is not controlled the only native anumals to protect in nz will be moved to doc controlled islands. then it will become pay per view for all of us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varanophile Posted May 4, 2008 Report Share Posted May 4, 2008 the same was said about iguanas lol...exactly. Guess we will find out this year....looks like I got me a couple of males to go with the girls, about time!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingart Posted May 5, 2008 Report Share Posted May 5, 2008 luckily a leopard gecko is not an iguana good luck with the males are females from different bloodlines? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varanophile Posted May 6, 2008 Report Share Posted May 6, 2008 luckily a leopard gecko is not an iguana good luck with the males are females from different bloodlines? anyone's guess, assuming they are all Orana Park, but colours look different to ones in zoo's. Hard to tell if response to environment or if they are diff blood line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David R Posted May 6, 2008 Report Share Posted May 6, 2008 So does this mean they are able to be imported? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Posted May 6, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 6, 2008 no we cant import reptiles, they dont have i IHS (Import Health Standard) like the fish. So you would have to apply to MAF to create a import standard. Then they would make all the guidelines and whats allowed in according to a list. Then you would have to get a facility that meets those standards. Reptiles have been banned from import so you would have to prove that there would be a minimum risk of allowing importation. Lots of time, not so much of the money side because allot of it is takeing research and what not to prove. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Navarre Posted May 6, 2008 Report Share Posted May 6, 2008 LOL I asked then teh same question about 6 weeks ago re a few types of reptiles that are already here including Leopard geckos and they said that they will not be issuing any new permits to import to any private collectors in the foreseeable future Navarre Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Posted May 6, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 6, 2008 I have researched this and have found: That you need to get a containment facility, the license runs you around $2000 After you have a license of you have to pay MAF I think it is one or two times a year to check to make sure it’s up to standard. Then you can import reptiles, but first you need a IHS which MAF will not create, if you get all of this done you can import them into the facility. If they make the IHS then all you would need is a quarantine facility that meets to the standard. If you cant get a IHS (takes one year) then you can go to IMER and get them to allow you to import animals under CITES. If you can get the animal into the country and get them breeding you have three options. A) Send back to the country at your expense B) Keep them C) Apply to have them released into the pet trade. if you choose C you have three options... A) Immediate and full release B) Conditional Release c) Release under a full investigation The first two will run you around $500 and they are for organisms that are not genetically modified and will not survive in our environment. Conditional release may be that they have to be a certain length, colour, sex Now C) will cost you around $35,000 it is for an organism that may survive in our environment. It has to go before many researchers and be broadcasted to the media and over your TV2 News LOL So you can import reptiles if you have the time, money, serious amount of guts and patience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varanophile Posted May 6, 2008 Report Share Posted May 6, 2008 waste of time. see how they go with the health standards based on country of origin, and if it is approved things get a whole lot simpler. Then I just need to crack Big Wednesday and we will all have Tegus and Blue Poison Dart Frogs arrrrrrrrrgahh(Homer Simpson)......Tegus...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingart Posted May 6, 2008 Report Share Posted May 6, 2008 I have researched this and have found: That you need to get a containment facility, the license runs you around $2000 After you have a license of you have to pay MAF I think it is one or two times a year to check to make sure it’s up to standard. Then you can import reptiles, but first you need a IHS which MAF will not create, if you get all of this done you can import them into the facility. If they make the IHS then all you would need is a quarantine facility that meets to the standard. If you cant get a IHS (takes one year) then you can go to IMER and get them to allow you to import animals under CITES. If you can get the animal into the country and get them breeding you have three options. A) Send back to the country at your expense B) Keep them C) Apply to have them released into the pet trade. if you choose C you have three options... A) Immediate and full release B) Conditional Release c) Release under a full investigation The first two will run you around $500 and they are for organisms that are not genetically modified and will not survive in our environment. Conditional release may be that they have to be a certain length, colour, sex Now C) will cost you around $35,000 it is for an organism that may survive in our environment. It has to go before many researchers and be broadcasted to the media and over your TV2 News LOL So you can import reptiles if you have the time, money, serious amount of guts and patience. 400 hours of work and still not finished 8) 46,000 spent so far Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Posted May 6, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 6, 2008 400 hours of work and still not finished 8) 46,000 spent so far May I ask what have you got from that money and time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gannet Posted May 6, 2008 Report Share Posted May 6, 2008 I have researched this and have found: That you need to get a containment facility, the license runs you around $2000 After you have a license of you have to pay MAF I think it is one or two times a year to check to make sure it’s up to standard. Then you can import reptiles, but first you need a IHS which MAF will not create, if you get all of this done you can import them into the facility. If they make the IHS then all you would need is a quarantine facility that meets to the standard. If you cant get a IHS (takes one year) then you can go to IMER and get them to allow you to import animals under CITES. If you can get the animal into the country and get them breeding you have three options. A) Send back to the country at your expense B) Keep them C) Apply to have them released into the pet trade. if you choose C you have three options... A) Immediate and full release B) Conditional Release c) Release under a full investigation The first two will run you around $500 and they are for organisms that are not genetically modified and will not survive in our environment. Conditional release may be that they have to be a certain length, colour, sex Now C) will cost you around $35,000 it is for an organism that may survive in our environment. It has to go before many researchers and be broadcasted to the media and over your TV2 News LOL So you can import reptiles if you have the time, money, serious amount of guts and patience. good thing dreams are free aye charlie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingart Posted May 6, 2008 Report Share Posted May 6, 2008 May I ask what have you got from that money and time? if you pay you can have the information R&D and time cost in todays world costs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caryl Posted May 6, 2008 Report Share Posted May 6, 2008 and a big headache :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingart Posted May 7, 2008 Report Share Posted May 7, 2008 and a big headache :lol: thanks Caryl forgot to add the 29 boxes of panadol and the loss of hair to the costings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
repto Posted May 7, 2008 Report Share Posted May 7, 2008 thats where it went??(the hair)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BK Posted May 16, 2008 Report Share Posted May 16, 2008 The thing is you can do all the work and meet all the standards and they can still say no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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