sub.z Posted October 5, 2007 Report Share Posted October 5, 2007 Right.. bit tricky then Is it possible to get a tank maybe 60cm long x 30 back and 30 high? Would be a good size for your fish for them to grow etc. That way you can use your filter and pump also Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ianab Posted October 5, 2007 Report Share Posted October 5, 2007 If you ask on a forum like this you may get some different opinions, but if I give you actual 'Wrong' advice.. I will get shot down pretty quick by the other members Your tank is a sensible size, but normal comet goldfish can grow to 30cm long and live for 20-30 years... yes, even the $2 ones from the pet shop. The minnows are actually a better option for an aquarium, they only grow to 5cm and will breed quite happily in a tank like yours. I have the same issue with my Plecos. I bought some of them as little sucker fish, 5cm long. The biggest one is 20cm now and still growing. They are in a 200l tank now, but will outgrow that in time too. At least with goldfish they can be moved to a pond when they get to 15cm or so and buy some more baby ones I'm planning how I can fit a 2metre tank in my lounge for my plecos which can grow to 30-40cm :roll: Beware.. it's a slippery slope into MTS (multiple tank syndrome) Cheers Ian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclaire Posted October 5, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2007 No .... my tank is rectangular with silver around the top edge and a lid consisting of two panes of glass... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclaire Posted October 5, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2007 shame you're not in Chch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclaire Posted October 5, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2007 It's the tank on the left!! :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sub.z Posted October 5, 2007 Report Share Posted October 5, 2007 How about i filter like this? I have used them alot and really like them They also will just suction onto the side http://www.trademe.co.nz/Home-living/Pe ... 067867.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilson Posted October 5, 2007 Report Share Posted October 5, 2007 ive been told that they are good filters for small tanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclaire Posted October 5, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2007 Thanks for that - it's suitable for tanks up to 19L - so will 2 extra litre make much of a difference? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caryl Posted October 5, 2007 Report Share Posted October 5, 2007 The main problem is confusion as your tank actually holds a lot more than you first said. You said you had a 21L tank but later gave measurements that worked out to be much more than that so the tank size isn't actually as bad as we first thought. For now, all you need to do is add an internal filter and stop trying to change the pH. Stop the water ager too as I assume you are on the ChCh town supply and it is fine as is. Save money Just keep a close eye on the fish as the weather warms up as there is less oxygen in warmer water. If they start gasping or hanging about the surface a lot it would pay to buy a small pump with an airhose for added oxygen. These are cheap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilson Posted October 5, 2007 Report Share Posted October 5, 2007 Dimensions 76 x 39 x 35cm/30" x 15" x 14 Surface area 0.3 sqm/3.23 sq ft/ inches sq in Volume 104 l./23 gal. (27.47 US gal.) Probable volume 94 l./21 gal. (25 US gal.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilson Posted October 5, 2007 Report Share Posted October 5, 2007 do you have the aqua one Euro View tank if so then i have the same tank as you :bounce: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclaire Posted October 6, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2007 Hi Caryl - the measurements I gave you were for a tank I was loooking at buying on trademe, not the 21L tank I already have. (I have subsequently found a site which converts to literage from measurements.) I apologise for any confusion - I didn't realise you would think those measurements were for my existing tank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclaire Posted October 6, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2007 It is an aqua one tank, but don't know if it is euro view or not .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ianab Posted October 6, 2007 Report Share Posted October 6, 2007 Ahh.. OK, that clears things up a bit. 21litre tank just isn't going to work for goldfish, they get too big too fast. Add a small filter like subZ suggested and a handfull of minnows will be fine in there. A couple of snails wont hurt either. Add a heater and you could have a couple of corys etc. I still have an old 18l tank that I used to breed minnows in, worked fine. Its got some guppys and a little bristlenose pleco in there now, but it's a small tank, so go with small fish in it. The bigger tank you are looking at would be better, but goldfish will still outgrow it. Again it will want a suitable filter of some kind. I have a beef with pet shops that sell beginners like yourself those small tanks and fish that just aren't suitable :roll: Not your fault, you were just given bad advice by the shop. Cheers Ian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclaire Posted October 6, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2007 hey thanks for that - I will try to sell my fantails and will get a couple more minnows and maybe a cory. what sort of heater would you recommend? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidb Posted October 6, 2007 Report Share Posted October 6, 2007 anything which you can completely submerge... Jager are the best but are pricey... I have used aqua one heaters, fluval heaters, and a whole bunch of cheap ones and I ahve never had a problem with any. 25 watt heater will be good, or 50 if you can't find a 25. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclaire Posted October 6, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2007 that's great - thanks - i will check it out on trademe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclaire Posted October 6, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2007 might try and get some neons too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidb Posted October 6, 2007 Report Share Posted October 6, 2007 Neons are good. but you might find that the minnows won't like the 24-25 degrees that the neons like. I have kept minnows in heated tanks but They have only bred for me in cold-water tanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidb Posted October 6, 2007 Report Share Posted October 6, 2007 all these heaters are good: 25 watt trademe heaters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclaire Posted October 6, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2007 thanks for the link david, thats great wow!! very awesome set up you have there!! is that a clown fish?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclaire Posted October 6, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2007 so i have two minnows now, if i sell my fantails, how many neons/minnows would be ok for my tank? I will get a larger tank at some point, but not just yet, as I'm only in my flat til March, so will wait til I'm a bit more settled i think also thinking about an under-gravel filter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilson Posted October 6, 2007 Report Share Posted October 6, 2007 :lol: where did you get the idea for one of them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidb Posted October 6, 2007 Report Share Posted October 6, 2007 thanks for the link david, thats great wow!! very awesome set up you have there!! is that a clown fish?? thanks...those pics are a few months old, will have to put up some new ones soon... yeah that is a pink skunk clown... for a 21L tank i would say 8 small fish, but thats me, so leave the minnows and get 6 neons, remember that neons are schooling so need 6 min really... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclaire Posted October 6, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2007 ok cool thanks ... as for the undergravel filter - a girl from totally tanked meeting recommended it is your clown fish called "nemo" hahahahahahaha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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