Lady-Lene Posted May 8, 2007 Report Share Posted May 8, 2007 Hi all Just sussing out the heating for new tank (roughly 400 litres). Be enough? Not a lot of price difference so could go 1 x 300 and 1 x 200. Also - fav brand? Any thoughts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharn Posted May 10, 2007 Report Share Posted May 10, 2007 two 200W should be fine. brand is up to you, personally i stay away from jebo and masterpet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharronpaul Posted May 10, 2007 Report Share Posted May 10, 2007 two 200W should be fine. brand is up to you, personally i stay away from jebo and masterpet Yep, 1w per litre, and no jebo or masterpet for me either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquarium Dude Posted May 11, 2007 Report Share Posted May 11, 2007 I like elite heaters, never had any problems. Ps.Have 3 of them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new zealand discus man Posted May 11, 2007 Report Share Posted May 11, 2007 Hi 100 w for 100 L is a proven factor or use more w just makes it easier on heaters.. Cheers Phill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluetom Posted May 11, 2007 Report Share Posted May 11, 2007 I've found not all heaters are created equal. Jager tend to be the most efficent, they state a 150W can do 300W, perhps a little over estimiated. But an aqua one 150W I wouldn't try in anything over 150L, especially during winter. 2x200W should do it fine , but if you can 300w don't tend to be too much more so maybe get 2x300W will only be on less of the time, not cooked fish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Discusguru Posted May 11, 2007 Report Share Posted May 11, 2007 It all depends on how cold/warm your place is. My planted tank is 1500mm x 700 x 700 and there is only 1 300w fluval heater in it. So far it's kept the temp between 28 - 29 deg. Might have to add another heater when the cold weather set in Of all the heaters i've tried, Fluval tronic came out top. ron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady-Lene Posted May 12, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2007 I currently have a Jebo which I find useless. Temp fluctuates all the time. Also have a small Masterpet for quarantine tank which also fluctuates between 24 and 29 within hours! Sux. I've yet to see what my new tank has .... only one week to go til I get it ..... :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: Cheers thanks for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HummingBird Posted May 12, 2007 Report Share Posted May 12, 2007 Lene, have you considered that maybe the heater is keeping the tank at 24 and it's getting heated up further by the sun or just atmospheric temperature? My tanks go up a degree or two in the day, and it's not because of the heater. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady-Lene Posted May 12, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2007 maybe the heater is keeping the tank at 24 and it's getting heated up further by the sun or just atmospheric temperature? I thought of that HummingBird but the tank doesn't get any sun at all and the light goes on and off even when the temp is already reading 28 and yet the heater is only set on 25. Seems like the thermostat is dodgy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Posted May 12, 2007 Report Share Posted May 12, 2007 Turn the temp down three then and see what it registers when it turns itself off. Make sure that the element is not directly down which causes a hot water flow over the thermostat.. Once you have finally found out what temperature setting fits what you requie, write it on a piece of card and atach to the end of the lead. You could write it directly onto the plug if you want. eg. 23oC = 28oC Then set up accordingly. They aren't precision instruments when all is said and done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady-Lene Posted May 12, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2007 Make sure that the element is not directly down which causes a hot water flow over the thermostat.. Doh! Thanks :oops: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smidey Posted May 12, 2007 Report Share Posted May 12, 2007 I have two 150 jebo's in my 200L tank & have no problems to mote. tank has been going for over a year & never had any problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flatfish Posted May 13, 2007 Report Share Posted May 13, 2007 I have found Jagers to be fantastic. Its easy to have a fair bit of money tied up in fish (much more than the price of a heater anyway) and I don't think its worth going cheap on heaters. In my 6 foot tank I use 2 x 300W Jagers. It may be overkill, but I figure if one heater ever dies the remaining one should go a long way to heating the tank, and each heater doesn't have to work as hard. I've found the temperature remains very stable throughout the year and the heaters last for years. I threw one out a couple of years ago that was working fine but was almost 10 years old, and I figured it was due for retirement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glen Posted May 14, 2007 Report Share Posted May 14, 2007 I've had two jagars and i'd have to say I'll never get another one. After going fine for a few months(on seperate occasions) they just stayed on and kept heating. The first time I lost five favorites in the tank and the second time I noticed it before any more damage occured! the LFS said jagar had a bad batch and alot had been recalled???? Im sure its been sorted as they are a reputable brand but it just put me off them. since then I've just stuck to the aqua ones, which im happy as with! 8) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HummingBird Posted May 14, 2007 Report Share Posted May 14, 2007 I've had similar experience with Jager, I've only ever owned one and it stayed on and nearly boiled my fish. Same with one that my friend had. I've never had another brand of heater do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flatfish Posted May 14, 2007 Report Share Posted May 14, 2007 I've had similar experience with Jager, I've only ever owned one and it stayed on and nearly boiled my fish. Same with one that my friend had. I've never had another brand of heater do that. I've never had a problem and was unaware of the bad batch. Hopefully they've recalled them all and sorted the problem out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady-Lene Posted May 14, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 14, 2007 Oh Man .... just bought a jager, then came back and read the comments! Heres hoping the bad batch is finished Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HummingBird Posted May 14, 2007 Report Share Posted May 14, 2007 My friends Jager did it this year and mine did it three years ago, so who knows. Everyone always says how great they are though so maybe it was just random chance that I've had bad experiences. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glen Posted May 15, 2007 Report Share Posted May 15, 2007 Im sure it was just a bad batch lady lene, They are supposed to be a very good brand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted May 15, 2007 Report Share Posted May 15, 2007 Yes they had a bad batch of them a couple years ago. There may be some still floating around if you go to place who doesnt sell as many of them. They are still the best heater on the shelves, next would be Tronic, then AquaOne. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HummingBird Posted May 15, 2007 Report Share Posted May 15, 2007 I'd dispute that - I've got a couple of Newatt heaters and they're totally awesome. They're touted as "indestructible" - they're aluminum with a plastic coating, and what's more they're black so they're almost invisible against the black background of my oscar tank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted May 15, 2007 Report Share Posted May 15, 2007 Ahh yes, good heater. Very expensive though. I still think Jager and Tronic are better as far as the price goes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HummingBird Posted May 15, 2007 Report Share Posted May 15, 2007 I managed to get my two 250W's for a total of $50 including postage, heh. Originally I ordered an aqua one 300W stainless heater for that price, but they didn't have any so they gave me a 250W Newatt instead. I called them up and mentioned the 50W difference so they sent me out another for free, just like that. I was happy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glen Posted May 16, 2007 Report Share Posted May 16, 2007 Id say it still comes down to personal preference faish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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