TimTam22 Posted October 24, 2006 Report Share Posted October 24, 2006 http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing ... d=74989829 I am thinking about getting this guy, I have always wanted one.... I just wanted to get everybodys opinion, like... What have you had them in with??? What you feed them?? Any special needs?? What size tank he will need?? I have asked a question on the auction and he has said hes in ok with anything but I'm a little worried that he might eat some types of fish?? If i spend that money on him I want him to be happy (I want all of my fish to be happy of course) I have done some reading on the net but need personal opinions Any help would be great!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.PROPHECY Posted October 24, 2006 Report Share Posted October 24, 2006 i had a pair in a community tank with angels , swordtails and a few others mine paird up and breed sevral time ,but there infertile they wer prety peacful even when breeding there mouths are kinda small so they cant realy bite down on another fish very well cool fish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimTam22 Posted October 24, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2006 Oh wow so you had them in a community tank??? Interesting I have read they should go in with cichlids in one place and then another place saying they can't fight back so shouldn't. :-? What size tank was it?? Did you have any smaller fish with them?? Also what size were they?? Now you have me wanting another community tank lol OR even better to upgrade my 300ltr to a 500 ltr ****DREAMS ARE FREEE**** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishboi Posted October 24, 2006 Report Share Posted October 24, 2006 this is quit a while ago now but i had a 3 foot around 4 of them with just ur usual community fish like danios and tetras. and BN of cause. seen pretty peaceful fish to me and quit popular in Asian countries as Feng Shui fish. although i've heard about them been aggressive fish but i personally dont think so. i am not sure how much they go for these days but i dont recall they ever cost $50 :-? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimTam22 Posted October 24, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2006 hes 15cm's so hes kinda big.... thats why i'm asking extra questions lol. I might give a couple pet shops a call and see if they can get them in and what price.. 8) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.PROPHECY Posted October 24, 2006 Report Share Posted October 24, 2006 mine wer in a 4foot , there was some small fish to like guppys and some tetras mine wer only around 10-12cm but yea they did fine in the community tank i tryd them in a cichlid tank but the other fish wer pickn on them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimTam22 Posted October 24, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2006 Thanks for that I think I NEED a new 4ft tank Still wanting any other advise/info... thanks guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharn Posted October 24, 2006 Report Share Posted October 24, 2006 keep in mind theyre hybrids- not sure your views on them but im quite anti em- feel sorry for them too cause of their deformed mouths. im sure theres no need for me to do the 'reason why hybrids should not be sold or bought' rant- if you like them you like them they can be agro but because of their deformed hybrid mouths they cant do much damage so will be suseptable to getting bullied if you have nastier cichlids with them that realise the parrots cant do much, putting them in with fish that can stick up for themselves would be your best bet or have a parrot only tank. they normally eat smaller tank mates. they get to around 20cm i think and require your basic needs- nothing special at all as theyre very adaptable species (due to being hybrids). these days they go quite cheap but it isnt too unreasonable given the size-pet stores would charge you way more. personally would spend that $50 on a nice sev (which is one of the species that makes them up) or three. good luck with your choices- i think a new tank is definatly called for :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishboi Posted October 24, 2006 Report Share Posted October 24, 2006 keep in mind theyre hybrids- not sure your views on them but im quite anti em- feel sorry for them too cause of their deformed mouths. im sure theres no need for me to do the 'reason why hybrids should not be sold or bought' rant- if you like them you like them when u say ur anti hybrids does that mean all "man made" strains and mutations? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharn Posted October 24, 2006 Report Share Posted October 24, 2006 nope, creating colour strains and some mutations are fine IMO- its mixing species that gets to me- hybrids have created havoc all around the world and have ruined some of their parent species. thankfully in NZ we dont have a big market for them but its each to their own on the hybrid debate and i respect that but i wont encourage the sale of them- some love them, some hate em and some dont care for the colour strains example- all these species of guppies etc- theyre all the same fish and have been selectively bred to bring these out- noones crossed them with brightly coloured differnent species to bring the colour out or genetically altered them. for the mutations example- some veil tailed fish can have a real problem with their heavy fins and it can make them slower when trying to escape nets, predators etc. i wouldnt like to have extra long arms and legs to drag around :lol: i think alot of the veiltailed ones look lovely but it seems a bit mean- i dunno *shrugs* some mutations like the many goldfish species (im not too up on them) seem to not affect the fish at all which is good. sorry to get off topic tim-tam, back to you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evil_elmo Posted October 24, 2006 Report Share Posted October 24, 2006 i've just bought 2 from the animate buy 1 get one free and i find them very aggressive they bully my discus, kissing Gouramis and even BN, only thing they dont bully is my arowana they tend to chase the fish but since they have a weird mouth they dont do any damage from what i have seen price wise, i've looked around chch and they are about $59.95 for a 8-10cm one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharn Posted October 24, 2006 Report Share Posted October 24, 2006 thats pricey! they will bully your discus evil- it seems they know what fish wont fight back- perhaps they got some psychic crossed in them? :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Posted October 24, 2006 Report Share Posted October 24, 2006 Why support such a mutation part of the industry. If they don't sell, we'll get "proper" fish in. They should stay in the LFS until they realize no one wants them IMO. I'm with you on this one Sharn. Alan 104 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimTam22 Posted October 24, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2006 Interesting thanks guys, I know what you mean Alan and Sharn, I don't support anything usually like that but when I first saw them and liked them heaps I didn't realise that they were "human made" so now i'm finding it hard to not like them. All I keep thinking is its not there fault so they deserve to be in nice homes too..... I'm a little torn on this subject :-? I wouldn't buy the "Buterfly Parrot"/"flower Parrot" as I think its not right trying to make a picture on the side of a fish but yea I duno i guess its the same fish in the end..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishman Posted October 24, 2006 Report Share Posted October 24, 2006 Speaking of Hybrid, Hollywood Albany is selling some fish which is crossed from Nicaraguans and Convict Cichlids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishy_t Posted October 24, 2006 Report Share Posted October 24, 2006 100% with you sharn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evil_elmo Posted October 25, 2006 Report Share Posted October 25, 2006 i found out why my one were acting so nasty to everyone else i brought them on sunday and they have laid eggs for me already but not expecting them to hatch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimTam22 Posted October 25, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2006 wow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowfax Posted October 25, 2006 Report Share Posted October 25, 2006 buying them only creates demand which = more freaky fish just another people are trying to make $$$ out of cross breeding, i have to agree you could get something or serveral somethings alot nicer with $50 but thats just IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimTam22 Posted October 25, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2006 Any ideas then?? on what I maybe should get instead?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimTam22 Posted October 25, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2006 What does IMO mean??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caryl Posted October 25, 2006 Report Share Posted October 25, 2006 IMO = In My Opinion sometimes you see IMHO which is the humble version 8) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiden Posted October 25, 2006 Report Share Posted October 25, 2006 Like Sharn said Severums are cool I like the gold ones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimTam22 Posted October 25, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2006 thanks caryl i have wondered what that means for so long :oops: :lol: Has anyone got a pic of theres?? just when you google fish you can't always be sure you can get one the same Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimTam22 Posted October 25, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2006 http://badmanstropicalfish.com/mb_pictu ... everum.jpg hes beautiful!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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