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The're small fish so just a tufted hand full will work. Most of the tank is available for swimming. Keep the trap as low in aquarium as possible or use the system you thought of in the beginning but with mesh. Don't move the Eggs !!! Move the fish, I think Ira said spawn often and he was right, better fertility is achieved with fresh eggs in most species.

I was reading your post and it appears your inpatients was not helping you. I did some breeding experiments as to the best way to breed CPD's when they were first imported. Observations of group breeding was the spare males would disturb a pair in the act of spawning and much less egg per female were layed. This is common in the Danio/Dario family however as they normally throw 100's or even 1000's of eggs it does not matter to the home breeder. Pair Breeding would result in eggs on the second day after being placed in the spawning tank, never the first and the most eggs ever laid was 48. If 2 females were used the second female may breed on the third day but most often she would not spawn. The female then needed conditioning for 10 to 14 days, feed them mostly Micro worms as in good water they live for many days meaning the fish could feed when and as they please. There was no gravel as it made things easier - Oh I kept the pair separate when conditioning. They were breed in very small tanks 300x200x200mm. I the tank was a small sponge filter a spawning trap with a clump of moss on top. Yes that's stainless steal but you can use plastic mesh from spotlight in the cross stitch section ( use the largest mesh) I breed Microraspora maculata ( dwarf raspora ) in a similar fashion.

So do you have CPD's any more? and are you still trying to breed the Emerald raspora ??

Cool, Yes the next generation are almost full red and an albino breeding in on my plans too. Although it looks like your albino's have the SS gene in them which is dominate over solid colours.

Cheers Jim. I see you have migrated to the deep south, when did this occur?

Here's a strain I have swimming around. http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y187/sjoestedi/Guppies/RedHead1.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y187/sjoestedi/Guppies/RedHeadGuppy.jpg

Double plastic bags are fine as long as they are adequately thick.

I think you will find that this tank was set up to breed the hillstream loaches and they are the only fish in the Aquarium. So I will be another Hill stream Loach

I believe garlic helps prevent worms. I use Squid bells, you can buy them frozen and add them to the beef heart. Also don't use king prawns, discus prefer the softer/sweeter small shrimps.

So they are in cold water/what ever the room temp is??

Wow, nice catch David. I must come and see your set up too. There is a secrete to breeding fish, it's called feeding them properly then they will do the rest. :lol: :lol: Unless of cause you have uncooperative :evil: fish

There are some females around. And if I don't stuff up the spawning I have of them this time, there will be quite a few more.

I shouldn't be saying this here but oh well I feed it to my breeding pair, so the fry get used to it and accept it greedily by the time I move them on (I have a smaller size for the young) to their own tank.

You don't need peat on the bottom for them, just peat soaked water, but they are egg eater so a trap of one type or another is advised. Marbles or gravel is fine for the Danio's. It can be hard to see the eggs if they spawn in the middle of the tank, I would suggest placing the spawning moss or mops next to the glass so you can see the eggs below the marbles. Neons - no, it is hit and miss, if the fish spawn but the eggs are dead, condition them again and spawn - neon that are not compatible will not spawn at all. Just use large and lots of mops for the Widows, that worked really well for me. set them up to breed on the week end so you can remove the pair once they have finished spawning to avoid eggs being eaten. Use pairs. The male can only pay attention to one female at a time and the other one will be eating eggs. One month to condition the for mentioned fish is twice as long as it should take - they can breed every 2 weeks - if feed right.

I would only breed the leopard danio's a pair at a time, unless of cause you would like 1000 + fry to grow :lol: Neons can be both hard and easy. They were the first species I deliberately spawned when I was 15. Of cause I did not know the eggs were light sensitive. :roll: The trick, other then the correct set up is to find 2 fish that are compatible. An old timer I knew used to bred neons by the 100's back when that art was new. He knew that if he put particular pairs together he would always get a successful spawn, swap the pairs around and they may fail. They don't pair up but it's not like Danio's - any male or female may not work. Don't over condition the neons and spawn them regularly, always use young fish - they breed easier.

You will be shocked at how fast the little discus grow Tom, really fast.

neons do not produce large numbers of eggs, 100 fry per spawn is very good. Black widows are prolific as well.

Yes, that pic is a female. You can easily grow 100 tetra's in a 600x300x300mm tank to a length of 2-2.5cm.

Around 8 years ago CAM i was breeding a number of tetra species and some very small species can produce 100's or even 1000's of eggs. 2 in particular that I remember were the black neon and the flame tetra. I had a spawning of black neons that was so full of dead eggs I was going to bump it, in the end I decided to grow any fry I got - I ended up with 480 fish, and there would have been that many dead eggs to begin with. As for the flames 1000's is absolutely true, I had them coming out my ears and then some. P.s I was breeding neons in peat soaked rain water and what works for neons works for cardinals regarding the water KH - you only live down the road from me so if it worked for me it can work for you. It's the lime and Magnesium that you need to avoid, carbon hardness is less of a problem. I visited Brian and his set up was quite basic but it worked. He did feed a lot of white worms to his fish to condition them.

30C is way to hot for them, they like it in the high teen's to mid 20's. I found they were at their best in the low 20's - (21-23C). Keep up the breeding KIWI

Yep, I thought it was you from you first post by your words and your SHOUTING. Howz't going Z...

I'm Not breeding any( although I love the Oranda's and Black Moore's ), I'm asking on behalf of someone. Thanks everyone, I had an inkling they would take it early.

I was wondering at what age Goldfish fry can take Brine shrimp, anyone know?

Actually not quite. 1, they are best spawned in pairs 2, they can be bred in a tank or plastic container 1/2 the size mentioned. 3, the best temp to breed neons is 21C, the temp mentioned is too hot for neons.

I have a few of these, their not that great but I like them. http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y187/s ... MG2283.jpg