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The spots do not look like they are white to me, they look red and to large. Better pic may be needed. I have a suspition the answer is no.

Is there a reason you are using rain water, I only use R/O - rain water if I am breeding fish that need no or very low minerals in the water. Is there somthing wrong with your tap water? Why is 6 or 6.4 Ph a problem ( assuming it is not from polutents or ammonia, nitrite or nitrate ) I keep my apistogramma cichlids at 5.5ph. Any way A (1) lime chip will be fine( depending on water contact , filter is a good place to have it ) and or 1teaspoon of baking soda per 100lt. What happens is the acid desolves the lime, when PH gets to 7 the cemical reation stops - as it go's acidic again so the cemical reaction starts again - basicly- this is why it keeps the ph steady.

:lol: I use baby B/N to keep the glass clean and to mop up any excess bbs, it's a good thing there fast other wise they wouldn't last 5 min. The Females are so very protective of their eggs and fry. I haven't lost any eggs to them but I do have a light over my bbs hatcher 24/7 which gives the fish a night light to keep an eye on things. penguinleo said To stop this from happening I seperate my pairs with a stainless steel mesh when the female has eggs. Hes still in the tank thou and it stops him from betting up the female if the spawn is unsuccessful, I move it ( but not remove it, this helps to define which part of the tank is his or hers )so the pair can get back to gether after 2 weeks this I find is enough time for things to charm down and the female to become rip with spawn again.

Sweet as Alan :lol: The email you sent me earlyer had me worryed :lol: 3 days budy, then you may have riglers if your female is happy and water perameters are ok. The water in my Apisto set up is currently Ph 5.5 and GH unknown but it is 100% R/O water with a 3 to 5% water change per day. The second batch of A. cruzi hatched today, not sure on numbers but it looks ok this is only the second spawning by this female ( I have spare females ) so it wont be large - there's maybe between 20 and 30 riglers at the back of the cave.

It's all about territory, if the tank is big enough they should be fine, including caves. The exception would be species that look similar, the males would fight.

Congrat's Malawiman, these panduro's are really going for it. The care of the young is the same as any other cave spawning cichlid. Except the male plays no part in raising the fry, in the wild he would bugger off else were in his terrory and find himself another girl friend. With that in mind.... The only thing you have to watch for is the females can get super agro towards the male ( and any other fish that gets to close ), if he can not find refuge he may well be killed. This can happen very fast, one minute theres a bit of tention next he's having his fin's shredded mercilessly.

Please do Mekaela, pic's tell a 1000 words Thanks antwan and malawiman. Things are heating up, the A. cruzi have spawned again and 2 of my cockatoos have spawned. I had a big old male die of old age - place a younger male in with her and they spawned with in hours later :lol: I was thinking of removing the maulburter fry but mum will do a better jog and the male is not there to bug her. Which ever way I choose there is a risk of loosing them.

Hey thank Mekhaela, Hows the marlieri going?? Just an up date both panduro's still have there bab's and are due to free swim tomorrow. The Biteaniata female is loving being a mum of around 60 bub's hurding them around the tank unfrotunately for me she always seems to have them at the back of the tank or behind the spawning pot, however just a few min's a go I was in the fish room and she had them right at the front very close to the glass. She lifted her fins and looked very angry at my presents but left them to do there thing rather then ushering them away, it was so cool to see. Ok now i'm temping fate a little, I have this species.... http://www.apistogramma.com/cms/index.p ... &Itemid=47 They have spawned a few times but never produced fry, I beleave I HAD the only male in the country all the others that came in were females. 2 days after spawning the male jumped and I found him dead on the floor :evil: :evil: I then found an artical on them saying you must breed them on a sand base tank as they are delayed mouth brooders ( I knew they were mouthbrooders). The reason for sand is that she will spit them out to eat but likes to dig holes in the sand to keep them while eating. I had them on gravel. I hoped against hope and every now and then she looked like her throut was distended other times not - I just was not sure. The artical also said the female was a super mum and would quit happly raise other species fry as well. Any way after I had a look at the biteaniata I checked her out she wasn't carying I could tell - no dout, Oh well thats the end of them as it is unlikely they will ever be imported again very sad. Wait what was that in the java moss NO IT CAN'T BE :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: YES IT BEEP BEEP IS, "FRYYYYYYYYY" :bounce: :bounce: I COULDN'T BELEAVE MY EYES but there they were I don't know how many. Only a few, 6 maybe ... OH please let them grow up and 1, just 1 be a male. I'll take pic's as soon as I have time, The next couple of days are always a bit busy for me thou. I am so excited A. sp. Maulbruter is one of the really unusual Apisto's they remind me of Geophagus jurupari with their pearly blue scales, There not Shy either. The male was always out and about. I really hope the artical was right that the females are super mums.

Thanks Mystic. Don't forget if you have something to say or show, things to do OR not to do on Apisto's please share. By the way the A. biteaniata fry are starting to swim and I got the EHT wrong on the second pair of A.panduro, mum is garding babys like the first pair. I really hope they make it, first spawns of young fish more often then not don't even make it this far. You know, some things take practise to get right .

Thanks Billaney

Hi all, Just recently there have been many topics on different Apisto's, some are long some are short. I thought I would start this topic for general discussion, spawning and what ever people may like to say. The point is to condense some of the info rather then having it lost in the pages of this site. So as I have spawned a number of Apisto's lately I thought I would show a few pic's for your interest or pleasure. Unfortunatly I'm not that good and it is hard with a small veiwer to know whether I have sharp focus or not when maxing out the macro mode :oops: This is a pic of A. norberti tank (H300mmXB450mmXD450mm). The males cave is on the right and females left :lol: now close ups Yes there is a female in there. I placed the 1/2 pot deep in the gravel and let her dig it out (with help from the male) to there liking. Oh I think she may have fry, they spawned last week(only a few eggs) then the day they were to hatch they disappeared. But I am sure I saw 1 brite red thing in there this morning the size of an egg sack. He's shy. :lol: . In the week begining 18 Oct I got my hands on 2 pairs of A. panduro, 3 days a go they both spawned. 1 in the morning the other in the afternoon, yesterday evening I checked them out as they were due to hatch today, both pairs still had eggs. This is what I found this morning in the cave of the first pair to spawn. and the other pair still has eggs EHT (estamated hatch time ) between 2-4pm today. Finaly thought I'd take a pic of a female A. biteaniata. If you missed it LOOK under her chin. EFSS ( estamated free swim stage ) Today :bounce: :bounce:

lol, its easyer to see them in macro then in real life, thats one mother of a spawning. Alan, both Chris and I have already suggested to seperate 1/2 the spawn. I have a snecking suspition that Billaney is wanting some to disapair, as I estamated 500+ fry maybe even 600, which will be a mammoth load of work to kept feed let a lone water changes etc. What do you guys think 500+ or over 600?? (count 10 or 20 then multiply over the spawn). I only wish you some luck Billaney, because good luck with that spawn is no luck at all :lol:

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I am all for shearing Carl but in this case, well Grant can keep it you know thanks but no thanks :lol:

Thats the one shiuh, I still perfer my finger over anything with a sharp edge.

Some how I don't think I would get a way with that. They will come a check me out as I am almost never sick like that. Haven't had a cold in years.

Blue stops the fungus long enough for the good ones to hatch then sort.

maybe.

Yes I forgot that, what a shame. I think I may have the only male hongsloi. The thing is I already have 5 tanks of spare females that look like hongsloi females, but are not so I can't put her in with them. But if Billaney turns up with her I will just have to find a nice tank for her

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Sorry she would only take up space here too. does Phill not have any?? If not these will be available in a month...

Thats what I was thinking, I found my A. sp maulbuter had spawned today, 1 of my biteaniata has eggs again and, YES , and the female norberti is building with help from the male a spawning cave.

Tell me about it.

I would just love to come and here what Peter has to say. However there is just no way I'm able to get time off at present. Sometimes I really hate working weekend

As there was only 9 fry I decided to remove the them,this will mean the adults may breed again in 10 to 14 days. here's a pic.