chimera

im sure i read somewhere that builders lime is bad because of other nasties that are added to your tank?

any tips on how to convince the wife to allow me to buy some streams?

yup, pretty much in a nutshell

yeah ben, go to Mulford Plastics: 5 Arthur Brown Pl Mt Wellington Auckland 09-573 0145 Its cheap as (about $14) for a large sheet. otherwise i should have some left over (depending on how much you need)

thats the crazy thing with nano's, water changes! one 20 litre bucket of salt water a month is all he does! i would do approximately 20 times this in comparison!

anytime peter, send me a PM, you're more than welcome!

tis ok. so not a co2 bottle as in a pressurised bottle from boc you mean one of those co2 kits with yeast? i had one of those dupla something and it was useless always got blocked (not to mention expensive for continued use) try putting the bottle closer to the water surface? i would imagine if its sitting too low you're counting on the pressure from the yeast fermenting to pump the co2 into the tank.

ok, just edited the subject something i am interested in then is DIY closed loops (I think all closed loop systems are pretty much DIY anyway) if you have done one lately, please let me know how you did it, pic's would be nice? i have 2 holes (with tank valves) in the bottom of the tank that will go down to 2 x iwaki 30rxt's then back up and into the tank into 4 outputs. therefore each output needs to switch to 2 inputs. the switching was going to be done with SCWD's http://www.3iqventures.com/ but changed that idea i want to use glued pressure piping instead.

just had to write the first post

wow, you guys rock, DIY section now available!!!

there is heaps of knowledge and many good posts in the saltwater section. its not just all rubbish posts otherwise you wouldnt be here great idea, moderators?

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how did you do the rotating spray bar? i've been thinking on how to do one of those in the past few weeks! got any pic's?

:lol: maybe one day!

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Now Bill, THAT is how a post should be moderated Your post was communicated in a friendly nature, you stated the facts and there was nothing written sarcastically that further intimidated members. I dont agree with you about the full story, but I dont really care to argue further because of the way you approaced your reply. Nice work Pies, its not hard to say that you and me are on the list, as is reef, lduncan, jetskisteve and others.

fair call

ok, i apologise for that remark. it was uncalled for. i stand by the rest of what i wrote though.

just edited my post above Fay to include point #4. im not going to carry on this debate furthur.

and I am not trying to differentiate between moderator's and "others". in most cases, mod's do a bloody good job. all i am stating is: 1. i agree, bring this forum out of the gutter. most importantly, that ALSO includes no sarcastic remarks that provoke attacks otherwise it turns into a viscious circle. 2. some criticism is good (so LONG as it is constructive criticism) 3. moderators should have a slightly more open view on the posts, make sure they see BOTH sides of the story. 4. a little humour (in the right context) doesnt hurt anyone. try taking some jokes a little more lightheartedly Cheers.

awesome pic's, REALLY nice stealth job on the streams!

Bill, thank you SO much. You have just proven my point EXACTLY regarding my opinion on Moderators. Take your post above, you are picking out posts of mine that DO NOT SHOW THE FULL STORY. do I have justification for posting what i did? In most cases yes, perhaps some no. How would anyone know otherwise? Highly unlikely, as you have removed the posts leading up to my comments. Try showing the FULL story next time. Now if thats not a comment to spark off some debate and rebuttal, I dont know what is. I could take that as a personally offensive comment, but hey, Im one to laugh off others comments and not let it get to me... I think you are missing my point. I am not disagreeing AT ALL with anal fin's comments. In fact, I completely and utterly agree. I am simply expressing my opinion that SOME posts CAN be removed based on a particular moderators feeling towards the member or the context in which the post was made. Simply say the word Bill and I will delete my account on this forum and never return. Thats how strongly I believe in what I have stated.

well said wasp. i agree, there needs to be a consistent form of moderation on this forum. i agree there are arguments about the most pathetic things, blatantly rude comments between members, postings that people should think twice about etc. however what i am highly opposed to is posts being removed due to the PERSONAL view of the moderator in question (still not taking away the fact that there are some crap and highly pathetic/argumentive posts). i personally have been flamed by a particular moderator (they dont need to be named) on a post that i disagreed on and replied too. i was told to immediately drop the topic when i replied indicating the sarcasm of the previous poster was uncalled for and I simply asked that I hoped the other poster received a similar warning. once a moderator adopts a disliking to a member, it is extremely hard to voice any opinion without getting issued warnings. in regards to fay's post regarding your anemone, i dont find any problem with a small bit of humour in this forum. there was nothing distasteful about the replies and they most certainly were not personal attacks. i do not apologise for my post in this case as I do not feel I was in the wrong, regardless of what else you were going through at the time (you're not the only one here). on the same hand, i have been put down by the "gods" of this forum myself for posting various questions. some i took offence too and replied, some i simply ignored and laughed them off. Anyway, I think the concerns expressed are namely the debate about importations and costs more than anything else. all in all, "anal fin" - your post has made me laugh (because it is SOOO true) i simply could not agree more and have to thank you for someone finally bringing this up. now lets see whether the moderators are going to send me a nice little warning-PM for expressing my opinion above. ch-intermediate-mera

to answer your other question, clowns will be fine. they actually have a slime coated on their bodies (or something like that) that stops them being stung. i have a bta (bubble tip anemone) that hosts a couple of clowns. you could eventually look at getting a bta for your clowns at some stage in the future, or maybe some glasses for your clown fish