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All thats great for winter inside....No substitute for natural sunlight but .... Dont forget to make a cool spot! 8)

we used them at work last week,about $4000 for the set from memory,very nice ,got a fiberglass back with a cement in fiber middle n rock looking finish

i will ask again

buyer needs to check his pm inbox

was a couple and there daughter

good luck with that!....hermans have always been that little bit more exclusive than greek! might be able to help you out in a year or 2. ( no not kept at home )

yea,have seen video footage of the culprits...(i couldent I.D them) would like to post it here,but apparently if you publicly disclose evidence you comprimise the case !!! pity,imagin the turkey shoot.... :lol:

So we all become that little bit more paranoid about showing our collections to people we dont know dam shame

was thinking along the same lines. he was bloody lucky to get them back

On the list.....Touchy subject....anyone know who stole the last 2 off ivan????? :evil: :evil: :evil: just a we bit pissed off about that......

Dont forget photoperiod is just as important as temp (24 hour light) or in mycase a 40 watt light bulb 24/7 (no heatlamp) if you mist the grass ,seems to be appreciated. if not add apple slices

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Most of the tortoise breeders i know wouldnt of touched it with yours !

holy moly:cry: imagin what a healthy one would sell for....what the!!!!

Yea, Yea as repto said!...... Caught n released a yellow/orange male elegans about 10 years ago on the north shore..... have also seen them cream..ish n beige...ish... have yet to see the legendry blue elegans or blue greyei! .....anyone else seen one?

I have found its more like finding a breeder(torts n boxies) who trusts you enough to sell or swap you some.....native paperwork is realy easy,once again finding a breeder who trusts you enough is the thing.....So are you building trust? or building walls?

:-? Yea, im trying....2 ears for listening n 1 mouth for talking!Was what i was taught....Still as i keep telling my kids,you make the choice n you live with the results Good to be back by the way :lol:

You have no idea how hard im trying :roll: its like trying not to scrach an itch with a feather

Fairly well pet proof,just the occasional pest(your not related by any chance) :roll: small wild moose...the bigger ones get stuck with there antlers.

Not snappy,genuine question. you do seen to be running a little sensitive though maby you should have that looked at

:lol: :lol: n round n round she goes :roll: seems its human nature to want what you cant have,a lot of hobbyist overseas would give there left nut for some of our natives!...no greek,hermans or box torts in private hands in australia(legaly ones anyway)

Have you go a spare 40 square meters of stainless flyscreen mesh i could borrow? young mice squeze through the galvie hex mesh curently in use.

Yea been at auckland zoo for years to,good to hear they are so controled.must be, i havent been offered any yet :lol: nor cane toads :lol: :lol:

I think it was about $8000 to apply to become containment facility i.e D.S.I.R (NOT A ZOO) n then animals can only be moved from cf to cf with written permission...bla bla bla Sounds a lot easier to just move country. And yet the powers that be have alowed the D.S.I.R to import CANE TOADS and AFRICAN CLAWED FROGS in the past for research, :evil: :roll:I wonder if they had to do an environmental impact report for that? :-? I presume universitys must be containment facility as well as they turned up there for dissection apparently.