The renas are also exceptionally good.

I bought my first Rena in France when I was 10, and it died 10 years later with the thermostat malfunctioning.

great to hear, 10 years is good!

I love the Renas to, especially the fact you can hook it up to the filter intake and it heats he water passing thru into the filter and then the filter outlet does the work of dispersing the warmer water.

i just realised i actually own a jager! i've had a large heater for a few years that came with a complete set up. its 300w so really big, it wouldn't have fitted in the tank i needed to buy a heater for today. it would fit in my main tank though if the jebo fails. would anyone be able to explain the temperature setting on it please? it has numbers 1-9.

Thats one of the older jagers. I have one but I have never used it

it has numbers 1-9.

1 is cold, 9 is hot. See where the temperature settles and adjust from there. That's what you have to do with just about all heaters, they just didn't BS people that the temperature on the side is anything other than an extremely vague approximation.

thanks ira. i'll test it some time this summer to see if it still works.

that jager is likely to be 10 years old or more, there have been a few of those floating around recently. I know a guy up here that has one, Sam sold one recently so there are a few working examples around & that must be great advertising for the quality of them. 8)

stay away from Masterpeyt heater they killed most on my frys.. :an!gry

get a heat pump :facepalm:

get a heat pump :facepalm:

Aren't many heatpumps for fish tanks. Suppose you could try rigging up something with a waterblock and a peltier if you wanted.

jagers are the only way to go. Cheap but i have never had one fail that i personally bought brand new myself.

cheapest i would go is aqua one. best value for money but jagers are good.

also they keep temps tighter - thermostats are better than cheaper chinese ones.

aqua one is the type of heater that cooked my fish! i'm a bit put off them now. guy in the shop reckoned a power surge would have caused the heater to increase in temp, i'm not so convinced.

It is not the heater that failed, it is the thermostat that has stuck in the on position. Usually the result of corrosion caused by moisture getting in there.

there will always be defects in parts. Jager, go jager.

dependso n the type of fish you keep. cost of them etc. you gotta protect live stock.

I use only Jager now, the thermostat is very tight.

there was water inside it yes, but we didn't realise this until it had done the damage. i upgraded it with the best i could afford, next time we need to get a new one i hope i can afford a jager.