Doc Holiday Posted January 9, 2006 Report Share Posted January 9, 2006 Just an insight to the new pumps the video is quite impressive http://www.aquariumspecialty.com/catalo ... a1a0718841 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Posted January 9, 2006 Report Share Posted January 9, 2006 Looks kind of cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasp Posted January 9, 2006 Report Share Posted January 9, 2006 Wow that really does look awesome! Probably need to wait 12 months so they'll discover and get the bugs out of it & then hope someone will import some for local sale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianemone Posted January 9, 2006 Report Share Posted January 9, 2006 yeah i really wanted to wait for them but decided my tank needed the flow pretty much straight away Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slappers Posted January 9, 2006 Report Share Posted January 9, 2006 i want some of thoses Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reef Posted January 9, 2006 Report Share Posted January 9, 2006 Looking at pricing they will cost more than a stream. Looks to be $300usd plus freight plus gst. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slappers Posted January 9, 2006 Report Share Posted January 9, 2006 might have to go to the frankton market go and see my bro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Posted January 9, 2006 Report Share Posted January 9, 2006 get me one while you are there :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reef Posted January 31, 2006 Report Share Posted January 31, 2006 have read that they will be about $350usd. a bit more expensive than a 6100 stream. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reef Posted January 31, 2006 Report Share Posted January 31, 2006 video of pump in action http://www.nzreefs.com/sites/reef/withair.WMV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0pius Posted January 31, 2006 Report Share Posted January 31, 2006 Is that background hum and gurgle the sound it makes or is it your setup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reef Posted January 31, 2006 Report Share Posted January 31, 2006 not my set up. video from USA, The gurgle is only for demo as you would lower the pump so it does not suck air. works like a tunze stream except the motor is on the outside of the glass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cracker Posted February 1, 2006 Report Share Posted February 1, 2006 Awesome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slappers Posted February 1, 2006 Report Share Posted February 1, 2006 i like are the controllable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianemone Posted February 1, 2006 Report Share Posted February 1, 2006 use you words paul to start off with they won't be controllable but they will bring out the controller latter (or so i read) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reef Posted February 1, 2006 Report Share Posted February 1, 2006 They are controlable. you will be able to run them of a computer like IKS or buy the control box which is suppose to be wireless. The wireless controller sound pretty interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slappers Posted February 1, 2006 Report Share Posted February 1, 2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reef Posted February 1, 2006 Report Share Posted February 1, 2006 i wonder if seio will make a alternative like the bad job they did on the seios. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slappers Posted February 1, 2006 Report Share Posted February 1, 2006 well i heard that the M1100 and the M1500 was the all sweet and a lot better than the earlier ones bull crap got a M1100 on my work bench waiting for a part got a M1500 that's seems to be ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianemone Posted February 1, 2006 Report Share Posted February 1, 2006 Out of the box it has a speed control, allowing you to adjust the flow to your desire. There will be a completely programmable controller which will control as many as 10 pumps simultaneously. This is our first priority after the pumps are released and is already in the works. We expect to release the controller within 6-8 months following the pumps. it was the progammable controller that i was thinking about that comes out after the pumps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reef Posted February 1, 2006 Report Share Posted February 1, 2006 Found a pic of what the pump will look like Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasp Posted February 1, 2006 Report Share Posted February 1, 2006 How does the power consumption/flow compare against a stream? Just wondered if it needs some more power to get sufficient magnetic feild through the glass thickness? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Posted February 1, 2006 Report Share Posted February 1, 2006 I'm more curious about what if you don't want it blowing straight out? Does it have movable vanes on the front to redirect the flow? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lduncan Posted February 1, 2006 Report Share Posted February 1, 2006 How does the power consumption/flow compare against a stream? Just wondered if it needs some more power to get sufficient magnetic feild through the glass thickness? That's I very good point. It's the first thing I wondered when I saw them. I bit of background on motors (in general). There is always a gap between the rotor (motor shaft) and the stator (motor body), the smaller this gap between them, the more efficient the motor (smaller gaps mean tighter tolerances and more expensive motor). The strength magnetic field which hits the rotor from the stator is determined by the gap between them, and the "relative permeability" of the material. In the case of the streams, the water between the rotor and stator has a relative permeability of around 80. In the case of the vortex, glass has one of 7. This means that water is 11 times better at responding to an applied magnetic field than glass. So with the vortex, you have a larger gap, and a lower permeability between the rotor and stator, which I think must result in much lower efficiency than streams. Who knows, they may have come up with a more efficient propeller to compensate? Layton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasp Posted February 1, 2006 Report Share Posted February 1, 2006 Should be possible to figure it out, do we have info on the LPH of the vortec + power consumption? We could then compare to the stream. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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